Archery

ExRayTed said:
Crossbows on the other hand aren't allowed often at all.
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Pity that, more akin to shooting I'll grant, but needs skill none the less. Crossbows are just as historic in their use as bows; I wonder if the olde worlde stigma that any untrained peasant could bring down a mounted knight using a crossbow was without honour, whereas using a bow that took many years of ceaseless practice to attain the strength to draw the bow was somehow more acceptable... has any lasting snobbery with archery clubs today?
Rather shoot crossbow myself than longbow/recurve/compound, but that just me.
 
jumpy said:
Pity that, more akin to shooting I'll grant, but needs skill none the less. Crossbows are just as historic in their use as bows; I wonder if the olde worlde stigma that any untrained peasant could bring down a mounted knight using a crossbow was without honour, whereas using a bow that took many years of ceaseless practice to attain the strength to draw the bow was somehow more acceptable... has any lasting snobbery with archery clubs today?
Rather shoot crossbow myself than longbow/recurve/compound, but that just me.
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Skinny peasant ;)
 
jumpy said:
Pity that, more akin to shooting I'll grant, but needs skill none the less. Crossbows are just as historic in their use as bows; I wonder if the olde worlde stigma that any untrained peasant could bring down a mounted knight using a crossbow was without honour, whereas using a bow that took many years of ceaseless practice to attain the strength to draw the bow was somehow more acceptable... has any lasting snobbery with archery clubs today?
Rather shoot crossbow myself than longbow/recurve/compound, but that just me.
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The issue with crossbows is that they destroy the targets..it isn't snobbery. Some clubs will let you shoot crossbows but not many.
 
jamesblade said:
Skinny peasant ;)
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lol :p

ExRayTed said:
The issue with crossbows is that they destroy the targets..it isn't snobbery. Some clubs will let you shoot crossbows but not many.
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Curious about that - same target points, presumably the same arrow/quarrel weight/velocity/energy retention as some of the bows used, ie. 200-300fps, what's the problem?
Unless there's some issue of range space, like a shorter distance means higher energy retention, so a bow could be used with less of a draw weight, whereas a crossbow would need sufficient range to allow energy/velocity to diminish a little. :confused:
Just thinking, as it were.
I know there's a 'match' type crossbow for competition, with a set draw weight, but have seen them go to two or three times this poundage elsewhere.
Anyone have any real world experience of this?
 
jumpy said:
lol :p



Curious about that - same target points, presumably the same arrow/quarrel weight/velocity/energy retention as some of the bows used, ie. 200-300fps, what's the problem?
Unless there's some issue of range space, like a shorter distance means higher energy retention, so a bow could be used with less of a draw weight, whereas a crossbow would need sufficient range to allow energy/velocity to diminish a little. :confused:
Just thinking, as it were.
I know there's a 'match' type crossbow for competition, with a set draw weight, but have seen them go to two or three times this poundage elsewhere.
Anyone have any real world experience of this?
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A crossbow bolt tends to be significantly heavier than a target arrow otherwise it'd just deform when shooting. The shorter arrow length helps but it still needs to be heavier. Most clubs use either layered foam or straw targets. These need replacing over time regardless of the type of arrow shot at them but using crossbow bolts would reduce their usable life by a fair margin.
 
ah, I see.
Maybe there's a niche market for 'reinforced targets' :)
Right! I'm off to plan on how to spend my millions from developing and selling a product to fill this obvious gap in the market :p

well, it was worth a thought
 
From what I can tell at our club it's more to do with the type of point on your arrow or bolt as it were in the case of a crossbow.

Some points just rip up the boss more on penertration and especialy on extraction.

With buying a longbow i'm looking at making my own arrows in the future and after looking over all the component parts i'll need it says by some of the points that they are "club exceptable" as in they don't destroy bosses as quick. Some of the boss's we use at our club cost a lot of money, Foam layers for indoor and straw rolls for outdoors. It's suprising how quick the center of a boss becomes wasted when you get people constantly hammering the golds with 30-50lb bows all week.

Looks good but target friendly..
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Looks mean but is target unfriendly..
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still waiting for my local club to start accepting new members, only been waiting two years now.

at this rate id be better off just starting my own if i had the land and enough locals interested.
 
GAC said:
still waiting for my local club to start accepting new members, only been waiting two years now.

at this rate id be better off just starting my own if i had the land and enough locals interested.
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Thats some patience you have there. Must be a very full club for them to stop excepting members.

Feel for you tbh, I think i'm lucky at our club as in they have thier own indoor range and as i'v mentioned after an initial period you get a key etc and so you can shoot anytime you want, that way its never too crowded on the line. Proberly why ours iscontinuing to grow all the time.

Good luck with it if you ever get in there.
 
GAC said:
still waiting for my local club to start accepting new members, only been waiting two years now.

at this rate id be better off just starting my own if i had the land and enough locals interested.
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Looked into archery occasionally as I loved it the couple of times I've done it but just no clubs near me and the only one relatively close by accepts only people with a disability... anyone have any sites you'd recommend for finding clubs incase I've missed something obvious on google... ?
 
Another archer here.
After spending 4 years at university doing target archery GNAS (95 - 99), I eventually progressed onto Field archery (NFAS) around 8 years ago, after spending the time after uni shooting at a very small indoor club shooting 10m. (exceedingly boring after a while!)

Much more fun shooting playing Robin Hood in woods "hunting" foam rubber animals, from Canada Geese, Wild Boar to a midget Stegosaurus and a small Triceratops! :D

Although I'd like to shoot a nice custom made North American Flat Bow, at the moment I'm using a mass produced Win & Win recurve bow.

I also can't stand using bow sights, and I shoot wooden arrows - cheaper to replace if the bounce off a tree and end up in several bits 6 feet away from the target.....

A lot of fun, although I'm glad I didn't have to bow hunt to find food, as most of the time my arrows ricochet off the side of the target and into a tree root or something! :rolleyes:

Still, a lot of fun!
 
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