Archery

LateX'Dog · 16 May 2013 at 08:16

What is the name associated with old fashioned archery?

I would like to learn how to shoot a real bow and not a mechanically assisted bow.

Robertnpmk · 16 May 2013 at 08:30

Traditional English archery is called longbow, but there is also Barebow which is no sight and no stabilizers ETC. that you can do with any bow except compound.

Most beginners courses teach recurve archery and then you can go onto longbow when you join the club.

Shoei · 16 May 2013 at 08:58

Robertnpmk said:
Traditional English archery is called longbow, but there is also Barebow which is no sight and no stabilizers ETC. that you can do with any bow except compound.

If your daft enough you can shoot compound off your fingers & with no sight, gawd knows where your arrows would go though!!

Most beginners courses teach recurve archery and then you can go onto longbow when you join the club.

At some point im going to buy a horse bow, something like this.
Shot with a Mongolian a few times, even though it was 50lb draw weight, was easier to pull than my compound bow at 40lb!

Robertnpmk · 16 May 2013 at 09:09

Shoei said:
If your daft enough you can shoot compound off your fingers & with no sight, gawd knows where your arrows would go though!!

Well this is one sure fire way of making sure you get plenty of practice with the metal detector not your bow.

Shoei · 16 May 2013 at 11:43

Robertnpmk said:
Well this is one sure fire way of making sure you get plenty of practice with the metal detector not your bow.

I managed to lose an arrow when my release misfired as i was drawing the bow. Was aiming low so i think it just buried it's self in the ground somewhere. Luckily its a private field for shooting on, so no worries about it
At least you stand a chance of finding A/C/C, FMJ's or A/C/E's with the detector.

I want to try some of the flashing nocks for shooting outdoors as it gets to dusk.

Robertnpmk · 16 May 2013 at 11:58

Bloody ****ed at Merlin Archery right now.

I have misplaced the clicker extender on my bow and asked them how much it would be to replace. They Quoted £6.70 which I thought was allot but hell I will stick it on my bow and never have to buy it again.

I asked them to order it and received an order confirmation email through that quoted just over £9.00 including VAT and Shipping.

I will not be using them again.

ps3ud0 · 16 May 2013 at 12:28

Shoei said:
I managed to lose an arrow when my release misfired as i was drawing the bow. Was aiming low so i think it just buried it's self in the ground somewhere. Luckily its a private field for shooting on, so no worries about it
At least you stand a chance of finding A/C/C, FMJ's or A/C/E's with the detector.

I want to try some of the flashing nocks for shooting outdoors as it gets to dusk.

Im shooting with some old all carbons at the moment - cant wait to 'enjoy' looking for my first lost one!

ps3ud0 :cool:

LateX'Dog · 16 May 2013 at 18:18

Robertnpmk said:
Traditional English archery is called longbow, but there is also Barebow which is no sight and no stabilizers ETC. that you can do with any bow except compound.

Most beginners courses teach recurve archery and then you can go onto longbow when you join the club.

Thanks for the reply, I'm having a look around my local clubs now.

What i would like to do is shoot one of these:

And not one of these:

Thanks.

ps3ud0 · 16 May 2013 at 18:26

Thats a Mongolian or a Horse Bow, I dont know many people that start shooting those sightless bows without learning and being proficent with a modern recurve bow, takes far more skill on one those let alone the back muscles youll need...

ps3ud0 :cool:

LateX'Dog · 16 May 2013 at 18:32

ps3ud0 said:
Thats a Mongolian or a Horse Bow, I dont know many people that start shooting those sightless bows without learning and being proficent with a modern recurve bow, takes far more skill on one those let alone the back muscles youll need...

ps3ud0

Thanks.

I want it to be a hobby and I'm trying to be "authentic" with learning to shoot. I'm not a big fan of the mechanical bows as i feel it takes away from what the bow is really about. (Personal opinion)

ps3ud0 · 16 May 2013 at 18:35

Not sure what you mean by mechanical bows, but I assume you mean compounds that use cams/pulleys to make it easier to shoot, modern recurves arent far off traditional bows other than modern day materials and the gizmos you can get for them (sights, stabilsers as shown in your pic).

I dont see anyone not recommending you to use a recurve to learn with though and once youve done that, well then you are free to try your hand at anything, be mad to use a traditional bow (like a longbow) to learn with IMO, the poundage would scare me! You have to realise it could be quite demoralising using such bows to learn with, as its all feel and experience to be good at using those...

ps3ud0 :cool:

LateX'Dog · 16 May 2013 at 18:42

ps3ud0 said:
Not sure what you mean by mechanical bows, but I assume you mean compounds that use cams/pulleys to make it easier to shoot, modern recurves arent far off traditional bows other than modern day materials and the gizmos you can get for them (sights, stabilsers as shown in your pic).

I dont see anyone not recommending you to use a recurve to learn with though and once youve done that, well then you are free to try your hand at anything, be mad to use a traditional bow (like a longbow) to learn with IMO, the poundage would scare me! You have to realise it could be quite demoralising using such bows to learn with, as its all feel and experience to be good at using those...

ps3ud0

Appreciate the replies.

Just sent an email to my local school, fingers crossed they have places.

Thanks.

ps3ud0 · 16 May 2013 at 18:45

Good luck - just enjoy yourself and take your time, dont invest until you are really happy to do so, so easy to spend money and realise in the long term youve made some poor purchases...

ps3ud0 :cool:

Shoei · 16 May 2013 at 21:33

LateX'Dog said:
Thanks.

I want it to be a hobby and I'm trying to be "authentic" with learning to shoot. I'm not a big fan of the mechanical bows as i feel it takes away from what the bow is really about. (Personal opinion)

I learnt on recurve many many moons ago, but shoot compound as its easier for me now.
shot "bare bow" a few times & its a totally different draw & anchor point to recurve, but the one I tried was as easy to draw as my compound. Even hit the 9 point gold but that was at 17yds. Think I'd struggle at anything over 25yds I reckon

Havana_UK · 17 May 2013 at 16:00

Popped into Chiltern Archery on the way home from a meeting this afternoon and they seem like a good bunch of people.

Their prices seem to be a little higher than some other places and they won't price-match, but their limb exchange programme is very flexible.

Anyone have any experience with them, either good or bad? Ps3ud0, I think you mentioned you've used them before...

Robertnpmk · 22 May 2013 at 16:18

Was in a comp last weekend and got into the top 10. Well Chuffed.

Im 9th in the Gents Recurve section BTW.

http://www.yorkshirearchery.co.uk/Results/Selby2013Results.pdf

ps3ud0 · 22 May 2013 at 16:23

Havana_UK said:
Popped into Chiltern Archery on the way home from a meeting this afternoon and they seem like a good bunch of people.

Their prices seem to be a little higher than some other places and they won't price-match, but their limb exchange programme is very flexible.

Anyone have any experience with them, either good or bad? Ps3ud0, I think you mentioned you've used them before...

Yeah nice bunch of people, did my beginners course there and bought most of my bow stuff from there, just more comfortable buying it in person and getting it specced up and trying out the configurations in the indoor hall. Not really looked at how well they price as I got quite a good deal for my bow as got to know the owner when I was doing the course

Im still using their limb exchange programme and had no trouble with it at all.

ps3ud0 :cool:

Shoei · 23 May 2013 at 09:22

Robertnpmk said:
Was in a comp last weekend and got into the top 10. Well Chuffed.

Im 9th in the Gents Recurve section BTW.

http://www.yorkshirearchery.co.uk/Results/Selby2013Results.pdf

Well done. I really need to shoot more comps.
Still adapting to the the back tension release i got, nice thing is; lot less target panic now & getting nice close grouping. Still need to work on that compound 10 ring though, so blooming small.

Havana_UK · 29 May 2013 at 15:08

Robertnpmk said:
Was in a comp last weekend and got into the top 10. Well Chuffed.

Im 9th in the Gents Recurve section BTW.

http://www.yorkshirearchery.co.uk/Results/Selby2013Results.pdf

Well done! Best in your club too by the look of it

I hope to start shooting in competitions once I've got a few months' experience under my belt.

ps3ud0 said:
Yeah nice bunch of people, did my beginners course there and bought most of my bow stuff from there, just more comfortable buying it in person and getting it specced up and trying out the configurations in the indoor hall. Not really looked at how well they price as I got quite a good deal for my bow as got to know the owner when I was doing the course

Im still using their limb exchange programme and had no trouble with it at all.

ps3ud0

Thanks

I'm probably going to end up buying from Aim4Sport, as it's more convenient for me because my office is reasonably close to them. Their limb exchange programme is 12 months only, but as many changes in those 12 months as you like. I figure that if I haven't reached my peak in 12 months I probably never will, and by that point I'll likely be looking at some of the pricier limbs that aren't included in either Chiltern's or Aim4Sport's limb exchange anyway.

Off to Aim4Sport for my 2nd session at their indoor range tonight

ps3ud0 · 29 May 2013 at 15:12

12months isnt long IMHO! Hell if you only shoot once a week at best that might be 52 sessions at getting good enough to spend quite a far bit on money on top end limbs. Expect to buy those limbs you are getting again in a years time. Just be prudent as it just sounds like youll might keep adding poundage to take advantage of the exchange program and might lose focus on honing the technique.

Im still pretty crap, but hell I doubt Id be as good as I am know just after a year of shooting and I dont consider myself near competition-ready :eek:

ps3ud0