Rooney's goals must be 50% pens?
Are City really better individually?
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Rooney's goals must be 50% pens?
No Evans is still rubbish, its just that Lescott isnt even as good as he is.
As for Richards, a woeful center half converted into a passable right back.
Rooney has 6 penalties I do believe.
Aguero has 3.
Do penalties not count as goals anymore?
Shearer wont be happy that 45 of his PL goals have been wiped out over night.
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i was thinking this before. except for heading what is rooney better at than aguero ? maybe passion id give you that.
He's definitely better stamina wise. Doesn't Aguero have to come off after 60 minutes usually? Or at least he did for half the season. I'd say Rooney is also better at closing out games and has the engine to do that even in the dying minutes of a game. Rooney's all round and long passing game is better than Aguero's as well.
Aguero in and around the box though is a beast.
It would be perfect if you could have both in your team I think.
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Aguero has just come froma different league, look at Silva now 3/4 through, he's knackered too.
Aguero is faster than rooney, has a great shot can chip a keeper, has more technical skill than rooney, is faster, etc.
The one thing he doesnt have is the pointy elbows and temprement to kick people when he has lost the ball. Some call it passion, i call it being spoilt...
Aguero is faster than rooney, has a great shot can chip a keeper, has more technical skill than rooney, is faster, etc.
The one thing he doesnt have is the pointy elbows and temprement to kick people when he has lost the ball. Some call it passion, i call it being spoilt...
Whole lot of people not understanding defensive midfielders ITT.
However:
However:
This paragraph almost entirely encapsulates exactly why these threads are silly. No offence Nokkon, but have you really watched every Premier League game in full this season? I couldn't even begin to speculate on who has been the best goalkeeper overall.
It's easier to pick the bad goalkeepers than the good ones. I think the standard of goalkeepers in the prem these days is very high, that's why when one of them makes a mistake it sticks out and everyone ends up talking about it.
Every goalkeeper has a howler every so often, even supposedly great and experienced keepers like Cech and Reina. I struggle to name a bad keeper actually, but Bogdan stands out as being the worst in the prem IMO.
Every goalkeeper has a howler every so often, even supposedly great and experienced keepers like Cech and Reina. I struggle to name a bad keeper actually, but Bogdan stands out as being the worst in the prem IMO.
Indeed, no-one really lauds a keeper when he has a solid game, and because the defence is as much a part of a clean sheet in a match, it's often difficult to prove who was most responsible for it.
My point is, to fairly compare all the keepers in the division, you'd have to sit down and watch almost all the games they played, and what they did in them. Saying "oh De Gea has been brilliant because I've seen him be brilliant" is fairly arrogant to say, because it assumes that no-one who supports another team has seen their keeper be good. I think Sczczesny has been fantastic, but I'm aware that I have no real frame of reference for this, beyond the fact that he isn't a liability like Almunia or Fabianski.
My point is, to fairly compare all the keepers in the division, you'd have to sit down and watch almost all the games they played, and what they did in them. Saying "oh De Gea has been brilliant because I've seen him be brilliant" is fairly arrogant to say, because it assumes that no-one who supports another team has seen their keeper be good. I think Sczczesny has been fantastic, but I'm aware that I have no real frame of reference for this, beyond the fact that he isn't a liability like Almunia or Fabianski.
Championship goalkeepers seem pretty dire in comparison certainly. Goal of the week is always full of shots that would never have gone in against any half decent premier league keeper.
I think you can have a fairly good idea who are the best keepers in the league simply from watching MotD. They show pretty much any half decent effort on goal so you get to see the keepers in action. I know its not that simple but if a keeper makes a good save, MotD will show it.
But being a good keeper isn't just about saves, it's bossing your defense to get them working right for you, being able to command your area at all times, especially free kicks and corners. You could make 50 fantastic saves a game, but if you're flapping at corners or commiting too early on one-on-ones, you're not that good.
Exactly. Highlights are almost invariably focused around goals, or near-misses. You're rarely (if ever) going to see MotD talking about Joe Hart's cross collecting, or youtube compilations of De Gea's distribution.
If Keeper A comes right out of the area to make a crucial interception on a through ball, does that make him better or worse than Keeper B, who in the same situation stays in his goal but pulls off a fantastic reflex save?
If Keeper A comes right out of the area to make a crucial interception on a through ball, does that make him better or worse than Keeper B, who in the same situation stays in his goal but pulls off a fantastic reflex save?
Only thing I'll say on De Gea is having obviously watched every United game this season I can all but guarantee no other keeper in the league has pulled off as many top quality saves as he has since the turn of the year and that is something I can be quite confident in saying despite only seeing highlights of the other 19 teams in the league.
I don't know about that... Wayne Hennessey does really well and makes a LOT of saves, but he's got a shocking defense in front of him which makes him look terrible on paper because of the amount of goals they concede. I think Hennessey has developed into a really good keeper though and is easily one of Wolves' best players.
Rooneys all round play is on another planet to Agueros.
I don't know why people can't give the boy the credit he deserves he is an outstanding player.
De Gea got such a bashing in the first half of the season from fans anything he did that was relatively good was regarded as world class, ie catching a ball or striker shooting straight at him. So in terms of 'top quality saves' they're the norm for every other keeper in the Prem.
That save against Chelsea for example, was very good but other keepers would have saved it contrary to people's opinions.
Much like your previous 50% of Rooney's goals were penalties you haven't got clue what you're saying
They do gush about him a bit now at times but we are not idiots, we can tell when a save was top quality without having some *** of a pundit tell us. De Gea has made a lot of very very good saves since he replaced the injured Lindegaard.