Are earnings too low / living costs getting too high??
- Thread starter Buffman
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Ah yes, a living wage on an internship, definitely a common occurrence in 2017.
Internships are more like 12 to 16k as far as I know..indeed, glad you agree
ones I've seen tend to be not far off grad pay pro-rata
So yes they're a fair way off a livable salary. (ok for 16year olds living with mum and dad but that's about it)
Caporegime
A decent internship should be more like 24k
Soldato
Moved out with my pay at 15k to a two bed house in London.. it's doable.
Caporegime
I agree, but then most parents are crap, surely life skills would be better to be taught than maths/history/literature?
I would've liked this when I was younger but it wont happen as theres massive amounts of money to be made with peoples lack of willpower/education with the above.
Dissapointing that feminism/SJW/Women studies/etc got into parts of the education system.
Caporegime
Apart from Science you've picked 3 important subjects that should certainly still be studied at school, if you can get to a proficient level in Maths it opens up a whole host of careers.
Soldato
I think understanding basic maths is a life skill. Just as much as reading and writing.
Caporegime
I didn't say not to do maths at all, but advanced maths is niche and not useful to most students in the real world.
Remember, the majority of school leavers do no end up as bankers or analysts or scientists, but they will most certainly be eating food, having to manage their finances, and dealing with at least a few injuries in their lifetimes.
Do you think knowing what an iambic pentameter is has more value than understanding interest rates?
Remember, the majority of school leavers do no end up as bankers or analysts or scientists, but they will most certainly be eating food, having to manage their finances, and dealing with at least a few injuries in their lifetimes.
Do you think knowing what an iambic pentameter is has more value than understanding interest rates?
Soldato
You know economics is a school subject right?
Caporegime
At A-level, if the student chooses to study it, and has a broader scope than personal finances.
Life-skills should be compulsory and taught at GSE level.
Soldato
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The cynic in me thinks the government has a vested interest in withholding state level financial / lifeskills education.
They want the public to be malleable. Gullible. Easily led and easily exploited to suit whatever agenda is en vogue at the time. If you equip coming generations with common sense, critical thinking and lifeskills to make informed and objective financial choices from a young age you get caught in your lies. Education, education, education! Pah, what rubbish. We are practically force feeding our young people with inflated ideals on university education and what we get at the end is a group of people with no prospects and no direction who feel completely let down and are straddled with tons of debt that many will never pay back. So who pays for it? In the end, we all do. It's a complete and utter sham.
I wish I could have sat down with my 16 year old self and had a chat back then. I wonder how many of our colleges and 6th forms are actually being honest about it with our young people? I'm guessing none because their funding is all based on how many kids they can mislead into university whether it is the right thing for them or not.
They want the public to be malleable. Gullible. Easily led and easily exploited to suit whatever agenda is en vogue at the time. If you equip coming generations with common sense, critical thinking and lifeskills to make informed and objective financial choices from a young age you get caught in your lies. Education, education, education! Pah, what rubbish. We are practically force feeding our young people with inflated ideals on university education and what we get at the end is a group of people with no prospects and no direction who feel completely let down and are straddled with tons of debt that many will never pay back. So who pays for it? In the end, we all do. It's a complete and utter sham.
I wish I could have sat down with my 16 year old self and had a chat back then. I wonder how many of our colleges and 6th forms are actually being honest about it with our young people? I'm guessing none because their funding is all based on how many kids they can mislead into university whether it is the right thing for them or not.
Yet I guarantee those teachers could tell you what happened on Eastenders and such....
Keep them in the dark and feed them gumby.
100% this.
Especially that last part, oh my what I would say to my 16 year old self.
Eh? Those sound like pretty naff internships, then again they're above minimum wage and are still feasible to live on - considering interns are generally students living in flat shares anyway!