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Are new full fat Hawaii XT cards on the way ?

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Hmm will it be an AIO like the 295X2? HDMI 2.0 and H.265? 4GB and 8GB versions in cost flavours? That could interest Nvidia fanboys i think until DX 12 arrives. Especially if you are gaming on 120hz and sitting on yer butt waiting for a single card Maxwell. Or like me sitting on yer butt with £1k to drop on a monitor and GPU.


It sort of wets my lips that i might get a pop at next gen and Eizo FG 2421 before Sept.
 
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When is AMD going to release a full fat Hawaii, if they have their next gen ready already? Only 3-4 months until Maxwell is out so they havent got much time.
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I'm dubious on the next gen as I can't see anything truly "next gen" on 28nm and as far as I'm aware no one is ready to make AMD any volume of 20nm (for GPUs) before 2015.
 
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I'm dubious on the next gen as I can't see anything truly "next gen" on 28nm and as far as I'm aware no one is ready to make AMD any volume of 20nm (for GPUs) before 2015.
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Maxwell looks good. You only have to look at the 750Ti vas the 650Ti to see that. The 750Ti has less cuda cores, less TMU's and only a 100mhz bump on the core and yet is still a decent bit quicker than the 650Ti whilst using nearly half the power!

If that translates all the way up the range then Maxwell, even on 20nm could be very tasty.
 
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Maxwell looks good. You only have to look at the 750Ti vas the 650Ti to see that. The 750Ti has less cuda cores, less TMU's and only a 100mhz bump on the core and yet is still a decent bit quicker than the 650Ti whilst using nearly half the power!

If that translates all the way up the range then Maxwell, even on 20nm could be very tasty.
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That just makes me sad thinking about what could have been & TSMC bungling it.
 
Jono8 said:
Maxwell looks good. You only have to look at the 750Ti vas the 650Ti to see that. The 750Ti has less cuda cores, less TMU's and only a 100mhz bump on the core and yet is still a decent bit quicker than the 650Ti whilst using nearly half the power!
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But you have to bear in mind that the GTX650Ti is much slower than the GTX650Ti Boosts despite having the same number of CUDA cores, mostly due to the narrow bus size (128-bit vs 192-bit) much lower memory bandwidth.

The GTX880 might have more CUDA cores than the GTX780Ti, but with the lower ROPs count and narrower memory bus (256-bit vs 384-bit) and lower memory bandwidth, it would most probably balance out and end up no faster, if not little slower than the GTX780Ti.
 
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But you have to bear in mind that the GTX650Ti is much slower than the GTX650Ti Boosts despite having the same number of CUDA cores, mostly due to the narrow bus size (128-bit vs 192-bit) much lower memory bandwidth.

The GTX880 might have more CUDA cores than the GTX780Ti, but with the lower ROPs count and narrower memory bus (256-bit vs 384-bit) and lower memory bandwidth, it would most probably balance out and end up no faster, if not little slower than the GTX780Ti.
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Yeah, my guess is the GTX 880 is not going to be any faster than the 780TI, or even the 780, but will be more power efficient.

Much like the 750TI replacing the 650TI while still not any faster than the 650TI Boosted will be priced based on its efficiency credentials.

They have users jumping up and down about efficiency so they know they can justify a price based on that alone. IMO,Its their next way to milk, just watch..... :)
 
They have users jumping up and down because no user wants hot running, stupidly loud parts that require AIO coolers to stay cool, it's just something we have come to accept with the push for greater and greater performance. Both Intel and NVidia are improving efficiency because there's a huge market for green parts and the fact that 600W GPU's and 225W CPU's are ridiculous for all but a tiny segment of enthusiasts.
 
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But you have to bear in mind that the GTX650Ti is much slower than the GTX650Ti Boosts despite having the same number of CUDA cores, mostly due to the narrow bus size (128-bit vs 192-bit) much lower memory bandwidth.

The GTX880 might have more CUDA cores than the GTX780Ti, but with the lower ROPs count and narrower memory bus (256-bit vs 384-bit) and lower memory bandwidth, it would most probably balance out and end up no faster, if not little slower than the GTX780Ti.
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Yes but the 750Ti and 650Ti boost are pretty even (apart from Crysis 3 ......and power consumption!):

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1040?vs=1130

The 650Ti boost has a 50% larger memory bus (192 vs 128), 20 % more cores (768 vs 640), 50%+ more texture units (64 vs 40), 50% more rops (24 vs 16), ~11% faster memory (6ghz vs 5.4ghz).

The only thing the 750Ti has that is better in spec is a 50mhz core bump.

All that whilst being a LOT more power efficient

Maxwell looks good :)
 
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Jono8 said:
The 650Ti boost has a larger memory bus (192 vs 128), more cores ( 768 vs 640), more texture units (64 vs 40), more rops (24 vs 16), faster memory (6ghz vs 5.4ghz). )
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So the spec on the GeForce site is wrong then?
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-650ti/specifications
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-650ti-boost/specifications

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Just checked on AnandTech as well...they are both 768 CUDA cores, but you are right about the ROP count part.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6838/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-review-

Also from the rumoured only 30 ROPs on the GTX880...that's a huge drop from the 48 ROPs on the GTX780Ti. So except for the rumoured higher CUDA counts, comparing the GTX880 to the GTX780Ti it would only have (less than) 2/3 the ROPs count, 2/3 the bus size, and probably 2/3 the memory bandwidth as well if the memory clock is similar to the level of the GTX780Ti...it would be very simiar to the position of GTX650Ti vs GTX650Ti Boost, with the GTX650Ti also roughly only has 2/3 the ROPs count, 2/3 the bus-size and memory bandwidth. If those rumour spec of the GTX880 are correct, I stand by my prediction that the extra CUDA cores and the improved efficiency on the GTX880 would only be able to bring it to GTX780Ti's level best case scenerio.
 
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So the spec on the GeForce site is wrong then?
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-650ti/specifications
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-650ti-boost/specifications

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Just checked on AnandTech as well...they are both 768 CUDA cores, but you are right about the ROP count part.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6838/nvidia-geforce-gtx-650-ti-boost-review-

Also from the rumoured only 30 ROPs on the GTX880...that's a huge drop from the 48 ROPs on the GTX780Ti.
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http://www.nvidia.com/gtx-700-graphics-cards/gtx-750ti/

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640 there
 
This is just a question, dont take it the wrong way. Is 8 Pack sponsored by NV?

But anyway this should be faster then the 780ti and way cheaper :)
 
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Nice! I wish I could test some gear too ;/ 8 Pack if you need someone, im always here for you lol


Anyway I just hope they release this card with a decent price, good thing the bit-mine craze kinder died down.
 
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