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Sic · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:10

Desmo said:
Oh, BTW, I take no offence at being mentioned in the clique. I can understand how it probably looks from the outside what with all the in jokes and whatnot. I don't see how it can be changed at all though. You have to try and get involved from the "outside" as it were.

more to the point, why should it have to change? people shouldnt have to pretend to not know each other. in the grand scheme of things, i've not been here that long, and i've made more friends than i ever thought i would when i signed up.

Dinomania · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:10

Ooerr.

I can imagine that if I make the Bristol meet that I'll also become a little more 'integrated' into the groups who know each other and who have been labelled cliques.

Everyone wants to be popular, and everyone wants to be noticed. I would say to the people (let's call 'em group A) who are moaning about cliques are those who feel like everyone knows eachother far too well to ever even read anything written by group A.

In any community some people become more well known than others. Either they have been around longer, or they post a LOT, or when they do post, it's always quality, or funny, or something that renders them notorious.

So I say to group A - just post as much as you always do - I daresay a fair amount of the names from posts you notice where you think "ahh, that was cool", or "good advice" or "hahaha, legend!" may even see a few posts from you and think they are pretty good too.

afraser2k · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:12

Desmo said:
Oh, BTW, I take no offence at being mentioned in the clique. I can understand how it probably looks from the outside what with all the in jokes and whatnot. I don't see how it can be changed at all though. You have to try and get involved from the "outside" as it were.

That's one of the point's I was trying to make before I was asked to provide an example, the only reason I actually named anyone in particular. It can all be intimidating for a new member to get involved.

Freefaller · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:25

I know people who I don't consider just forum members or associate them as being on the forums - but as genuine friendships. If they are called "cliquey" then so be it, the fact remains that I happen to have some close friends on this forum. If they lived closer I'd probably see them often (some do live close and I've been very lazy with seeing them!

).

There is a bit of cliquiness in Motors but it's soon forgotten - you can't avoid it, it will always be like that anywhere in life when you have large groups of diverse people. It doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. And so what if there is a running joke between some members?

Old Turkey · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:37

There is a clique, but for a very good and understandable reason. Meeting people face to face conveys so much more than a forum post ever could. It's simply one more common thread which unites the people together in a special way, above and beyond everything else.

Now, theres no point making excuses for the clique because you can't, so don't get annoyed. If you want to be part of the clique I suggest you submit and go to one of the many meets.

Otacon · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:38

By definition a clique is a closed group of people though. And that, we aint.

Sleepy · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:40

afraser2k said:
I think ... SC [is] very clique-based.

ROFPMSL, SC is a group of people who like to argue about issues, thats about as far from a clique as you can get.

afraser2k said:
In SC it's usually the same right/left-wing split on the same topics over and over (insert latest anti-PC/immigration/New Labour story).

There's only a limited number of current issues, so they will get recycled, thats life. Often an issue splits the participents into two sides but its not always the same people on each side. But thats not a clique either.

Gilly · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:45

Otacon said:
By definition a clique is a closed group of people though. And that, we aint.

Bingo.

Sleepy · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:53

cleanbluesky said:
Thanks for reminding me that you still didn't specify who that vaguely derogatory comment in SC was aimed at sleepy

You are so my biatch

zero_01 · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:55

i have been starting to come on to Overclockers when i am at work, (when i am doing nothing).

afraser2k · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:55

Otacon said:
By definition a clique is a closed group of people though. And that, we aint.

From the group that I was asked to provide an example of, how many "new members" joined up with them last year? I'm not saying the whole of GD or any sub-forum is a clique, just certain groups of friends who didn't seem welcoming to new members of the forum to their particular group. I'm not talking about general welcomes to the forum members, but rather these close groups.

In SC we might like to argue about various topics but it always seems to be the same people on both sides, like I said, that acted like a clique.

One more thing, the only time I said that cliques could be bad for the forum was when providing examples of when people were banned and their supporters decided to cause trouble for the rest of us.

Otacon · 8 Mar 2006 at 14:59

afraser2k said:
I'm not saying the whole of GD or any sub-forum is a clique, just certain groups of friends who didn't seem welcoming to new members of the forum to their particular group.

Sorry dude, but that's crap. We've had, and have people that have barely been a member for a month putting their name down for meets. They get the same reception as everyone.

Borris · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:01

Otacon said:
They get the same reception as everyone.

Wedgies all round.

Otacon · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:02

A serenade from Gilly. A dance from moi. A ' :eek:

' from Haly.

Sic · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:04

afraser2k said:
From the group that I was asked to provide an example of, how many "new members" joined up with them last year? I'm not saying the whole of GD or any sub-forum is a clique, just certain groups of friends who didn't seem welcoming to new members of the forum to their particular group. I'm not talking about general welcomes to the forum members, but rather these close groups.

that's a load of crap. you've been here way longer than me, and i've met everyone on your list except Feek. it just seems to me like you want to be popular, but you cant be bothered to try and socialise with people on here. you dont seem particularly scared to join a debate (or, indeed, start one) so that's the only reason i can see

Rich_L · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:04

Crap!

Heh, just wanted to say that as it seemed to be getting some good Word-love recently.

Desmo · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:04

So what are we supposed to do when new members arrive? Ask them to join in with our in jokes that they won't understand? Actively search them out and make them come to meets? Hound them until they join in with us? Sorry, I'm a bit :confused:

Sic · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:06

Rich_L said:
Crap!

Heh, just wanted to say that as it seemed to be getting some good Word-love recently.

i wanted to say something else...but i dont like using starries...it annoys me.

Matblack · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:08

Desmo said:
So what are we supposed to do when new members arrive? Ask them to join in with our in jokes that they won't understand? Actively search them out and make them come to meets? Hound them until they join in with us? Sorry, I'm a bit

The problem is that most are either too young or don't have a partner to bring to the wife swapping parties.

MB

Borris · 8 Mar 2006 at 15:10

Matblack said:
The problem is that most are either too young or don't have a partner to bring to the Rich_L touching parties.

Fixed.