Area 51

MajorPart said:
Shot or detained under terrorism laws possibly. Might have worked before 911. but now they have the power to pretty much do what they like to defend stratigic locations... all in the name of Homeland Security..
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Ok maybe a few thousand isn't that much so lets say a million plus news reporters and people of all ages including children, would they have the guts to stop or even shoot at them now?
 
I think the Area 51 and Nellis ranges etc will come back into the US publics focus over the next few months as the rumours of Divine Strake, start to flow.

It is a large 700t fuel bomb that is set to be let off in the nevada test range this summer (june) to test damaging underground facilitys ie Iran or Feidong, China wether a fuel or small nuke would be better. However the US congress were breifed that this would be a nuke not fuel bomb. Intresting...

Public figures are going nuts as this one of the last straws for them in secrecy in us military projects.

Think the US public are starting to not like the secrecy of thier govt.. we shall see.
 
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Radiation said:
Ok maybe a few thousand isn't that much so lets say a million plus news reporters and people of all ages including children, would they have the guts to stop or even shoot at them now?
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They would just stop the news companies from reporting it so apart from thoose involved who would in the end be detained or whatever, most would never hear about it bar thoose who scan the "conspiracy" websites.. i'm sure this has happened before (although obviously not millions)
 
Radiation said:
Ok maybe a few thousand isn't that much so lets say a million plus news reporters and people of all ages including children, would they have the guts to stop or even shoot at them now?
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Im quite sure it would be defended at all costs, which would mean everyone that refused to stop would be shot dead. Obviously power of numbers would be present with a million people, whether or not they could kill them all before they made it into the base....who knows. You dont know what kind of defences they have as you get closer to the base, could be land mined or they could have those chainguns like that nuclear plant just installed.
 
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I wonder how long it will be before the "Blackbirds'" replacement will be revealed? Presumably this time there will be no need for an extremely long runway.
 
Prove what?

The problem with proving things (as also seen with the Blairs not wanting to discuss if Leo had a seperate MMR jab) means that, while you may have nothing to hide, it sets a precidence where you will be expected to prove or disprove other happenings in the future.

So my guess is there's nothing worth knowing about it, but its just not a road they want to go down, PR-wise.

Simple really :)
 
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fatiain said:
Nope, satellites can only spy when they're over a target. Spy planes can fly as and when.
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Satellites also take over 24 hours to get in position.

Blackbird could get there and back and have the film developed and have it in the hands of experts in under 18.

Wouldn't be so bad but they've had to delay Blackbirds retirements once and bring Blackbird out of retirement twice now *iirc* as satellites coudn't cut the mustard when it came to espionage.

Was officially retired in early 1990 - but was rought back and flew throughout 1991 over the gulf.

Then again in 1995 - flying out of Edwards AFB

Last flew in 1999 - in the hands of NASA doing high speed research.

If anyone wants a good book - Sled Driver by Brian Shul and The Untouchables again by Brian Shul are fantastic.

Simon/~Flibster
 
6thElement said:
Unmanned drones are the replacement.
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Reasonably cheap, but extremely vulnerable at the moment.

Although one did drop a LGB in Afghanistan iirc - became the first UCAV. I also thing that some have fired Air-Ground missiles at testing ranges.

When he first gen of stealth UAV and UCAV's come in then they'll be much better.

Blackbird still rules the roost though. :D

Simon/~Flibster
 
Flibster said:
Although one did drop a LGB in Afghanistan iirc - became the first UCAV. I also thing that some have fired Air-Ground missiles at testing ranges.
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Predator drones operated by the CIA have regularly fired hellfire misiles at targets since the initial Coalition invasion of Afghanistan.
 
fatiain said:
Yes, the skin of the aircraft is too small when it's cold and all the panels don't line up properly, therefore it leaks the JP7 fuel like a seive. What they normally do is take off, rag it about a bit to warm it up and then in-flight refuel.

JP7 has a very high flash point so it doesn't cause too much of a fire risk.
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The fuel was so imflammable that if you threw a bucket full over a fire it would put the fire out instead.

Was it JP7 or something unique to the Blackbird program?
 
I had assumed- perhaps ignorantly, that the Aurora was a replacement for the Blackbird ?
 
Flibster said:
Blackbird could get there and back and have the film developed and have it in the hands of experts in under 18.
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I would have thought that Blackbird could take the photos and send them immediately over an encrypted signal.
 
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