Arsene Wenger: Arsenal boss to leave club at end of season

Purdy said:
LOL 2 years

Also your squad and main team are not impressive in the slightest
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When you consider what Klopp has done with your team in 2 years though it shows what a great manager can do.

I'd pit our team now against the team that Klopp inherited and expect it to win 8/10 times.
 
Rids said:
When you consider what Klopp has done with your team in 2 years though it shows what a great manager can do.

I'd pit our team now against the team that Klopp inherited and expect it to win 8/10 times.
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Klopp is no where near winning the league and has an overhauled first team. Karius/TAA/VVD/Robertson/Ox/Wij/Mane/Salah

We've had a good CL run which whilst we've been fantastic doesn't demonstrate how far away we are from winning the league.

Also you had a better team back then and failed to beat us that season, I guess that covers your 2 non wins in the prediction though :D
 
Purdy said:
Klopp is no where near winning the league and has an overhauled first team. Karius/TAA/VVD/Robertson/Ox/Wij/Mane/Salah

We've had a good CL run which whilst we've been fantastic doesn't demonstrate how far away we are from winning the league.

Also you had a better team back then and failed to beat us that season, I guess that covers your 2 non wins in the prediction though :D
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The problem is that we're all competing with a City side that is far and away the best to play in the premier league era - its a hugely difficult benchmark to hit. I don't expect Arsenal to win the league within 2 years, but to at least be in the mix instead of out with the washing, but if City keep on the way they are they're nigh on unstoppable for a couple of years.

I was suggesting that I'd put our team now up against your team then (obviously a bull**** comparison, but highlighting that I think we're in better shape now than we have been for a long time, despite the performances - perhaps I'm deluded), genuinely interested as you're a third party - do you feel our team 2 years ago was in better shape than it is now?
 
Klopp has done a great job but we did already have players like Firmino and coutinho. I think the problem arsenal is going to have is wages. Having the ozils etc on the team stealing a wage pushing up everyone else's wages.

Can't remember what Aub and Lacs are on but I'm willing to bet it's more than anyone at Liverpool. VVD and Firmino are now on 180k replacing what coutinho was on.

Arsenal have so many players leaving so need a massive influx of players. Just think the wage structure of having ozil on 300k+ a week is going to cause such problems for any big signings.
 
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Rids said:
The problem is that we're all competing with a City side that is far and away the best to play in the premier league era - its a hugely difficult benchmark to hit. I don't expect Arsenal to win the league within 2 years, but to at least be in the mix instead of out with the washing, but if City keep on the way they are they're nigh on unstoppable for a couple of years.

I was suggesting that I'd put our team now up against your team then (obviously a bull**** comparison, but highlighting that I think we're in better shape now than we have been for a long time, despite the performances - perhaps I'm deluded), genuinely interested as you're a third party - do you feel our team 2 years ago was in better shape than it is now?
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From what I recall yes.

Sanchez, Carzola, Ox, Giroud, Walcott. Definitely add value to that squad and I'd be taking over Auba/Lacazette/whoever else happens to fill those roles right now? (Granted I expect those 2 to imrpove). Your goalkeeper has gotten drastically worse and the defence has not improved at all.

I think that team two years ago scores last week and takes some of those chances last night and certainly less pathetic in the league vs the weaker sides. (Evident from you finishing what, 2nd/3rd?)

(Also some part of me really wanted you to win last night for Wenger, I agree he has gotten stale and should've gone a while ago but the treatment he has received kinda sucks along with the mocking for what was once a really impressive manager. But I also loathe the entitlement of the fans so glad you didn't :p)
 
Apologies if that was derailing a bit - from what I've been hearing from some well respected Arsenal blogs and such we're not going to be going for a big name coach like Allegri, Enrique or Simeone. Aside from the fact those are for the most part unrealistic targets it seems that there just isn't a huge transfer budget available for a new manager to spend (thats a whole other debate, not worth getting into) so the focus is going to be in finding a manager that will be comfortable working under budget restrictions and who is known for being able to get the best out of what he has to work with.
 
Isn't Enrique asking for 25m salary, I think he might price himself out of a lot of moves if that is true.
 
Why the fuss about Enrique, hasn’t he been a bit **** apart from this run with barca. Where to be honest Roberto Martinez could win the league this year with them.

25m he’s trying his luck. That’s half your transfer budget :p

I’m still convinced it won’t be a big name, a no2 from somewhere else. Nice and cheap, limited funds. Just be thankful it wasn’t Gerrard.
 
I don't want Rodgers. I'm not sure why. Would feel al little bit anti climatic.

I recognise he did a decent job at Liverpool notably signing Coutinho and Suarez but why did Liverpool let him go in the end?

I don't think he is what we need at the club.

I'm not sure about Enrique either. It's easy to win things when you have Messi in your team. Look at Argentina with and without Messi. Different team.

I'd like Allegri. Juve have what we've lost. A winning mentality.

Whether we can convince him to leave Juve is a different story tho.

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Viera might be worth a chance.

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On a different note this is it. Tomorrow is the last Wenger home game and in 1 weeks time we will be in a post Wenger era at Arsenal!

This day is a long time coming.
 
Rodgers wasn't at the club when we signed Suarez and wasn't responsible for Coutinho's signing either. I said at the time he was sacked that Suarez killed Rodgers at Liverpool - when Rodgers arrived he was all about total possession and patient build-up play but you can't do that with Suarez and he was forced to change and built us into the most relentless attacking side. When Suarez left and Sturridge's body broke down, Rodgers was left not knowing whether to go back to his old ways or try to play the Suarez/Sturridge way but without them. In the end he just lost the plot, changing system ever other game and playing players out of position.

Probably the main reason why Rodgers was always on borrowed time at Liverpool was his unwillingness to work within the director of football/transfer committee type system we have. Players that weren't Rodger's personal picks were never given the chances that players Rodgers personally pushed for. With Arsenal moving towards a similar type system with the appointments from Dortmund and Barca, unless Rodgers has changed and more willing to work in that sort of system then I can't see how he would work at Arsenal.

Hasn't Allegri already said that he will only manage a CL side? I think it's probably irrelevant anyway because as I touched on above, it looks like Arsenal just want a head coach to work under an umbrella of director of football type figures rather than an old fashioned manager. Getting a big name manager to work under those conditions without CL football nor a huge transfer budget to work with seems pretty difficult to me.
 
See what I said about Rodgers working in a director of football type setup and times it by 10. Benitez would want total control and he won't be given it.
 
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