Assange to go!

If the case against him was so bodged, yes, probably. At this stage there is no way he would get a fair trial, a jury would have so much prior perception of him (either way) it just couldn't happen.

So yes you're saying that if someone flees justice after an amount of time they can just go free?!
That's insane!
It gives criminals incentive to do everything they can to evade justice. Puts law enforcement officials at greater risk as a result.
 
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying when a case is so botched by the judiciary then there should certainly be some leeway in pursuing the case, especially if the accused has already spent a significant period in "detention".

As I said before, I doubt if he would ever get convicted, even if he ended up in a court room. His lawyers would have the entire thing torn to pieces and the case against him dropped on technicalities and irregularities.
 
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying when a case is so botched by the judiciary then there should certainly be some leeway in pursuing the case, especially if the accused has already spent a significant period in "detention".

As I said before, I doubt if he would ever get convicted, even if he ended up in a court room. His lawyers would have the entire thing torn to pieces and the case against him dropped on technicalities and irregularities.

But that detention was his own choice! If, as you say, it's such a crap case then why the hell won't he face the music?
 
But that's ignoring the point, Assage didn't "steal" any data and both Manning and Snowdon didn't just release data into the wild for everyone to look at. Manning gave the data to a respectable (and it was respected - and still is) organisation, Wikileaks, and Snowdon gave the data he took to two of the most respected investigatory newspapers in the world, one in the US and one in the UK. Both organisations are full of lawyers and go through the data with a fine tooth comb - both have not released particularly sensitive data for the very reasons you mention above.

They didn't just dump stuff on the internet.

I didn't mean Assange or wikileaks are eroding things, I meant people getting upset at the government for not being morally perfect..

And I don't agree with your assessment of the situation, all parties knew full well what they where doing and the repercussions, surely no one could think that they would get away on some technicality when it comes to official secrets acts?
 
Did you see the African guy from this UN working group being interviewed on the BBC earlier? For someone working at the UN he didn't have a single ****ing clue what the hell he was going on about. If he wasn't on via videolink from New York I'd have thought the BBC had accidentally interviewed another random person there for a job interview.

Apparently no one on the panel reviewing the case had any legal training, let alone training in international law.

It's the equivalent of asking a bunch of lawyers to decide on the best technically safe design of a complete moon rocket.
 
Did you see the African guy from this UN working group being interviewed on the BBC earlier? For someone working at the UN he didn't have a single ****ing clue what the hell he was going on about. If he wasn't on via videolink from New York I'd have thought the BBC had accidentally interviewed another random person there for a job interview.

Any opportunity for the UN to bash the West will be taken. I tell you if Russia got half of the unfair treatment we got they'd have quit the UN by now
 
We've broken international law numerous times with recent military interventions and are currently doing so in Syria, so why the surprise? it's something we can and have easily bypassed with the power of our media. It's only when other countries who we're at odds with break it that we make a big song dance about it.
 
Apparently no one on the panel reviewing the case had any legal training, let alone training in international law.

It's the equivalent of asking a bunch of lawyers to decide on the best technically safe design of a complete moon rocket.

You must be gullible. Here's the list of members:

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Detention/Pages/Members.aspx

Two associate professors, two PhDs, and a fifth academic, all in international law and/or human rights.
 
If the case against him was so bodged, yes, probably. At this stage there is no way he would get a fair trial, a jury would have so much prior perception of him (either way) it just couldn't happen.

He hasn't been charged, they want him for questioning.
I find the UN having any such report generated absurd.


I am aware that Assange is concerned about extradition to the US if he is first moved to Sweden, but he still needs to answer his case in Sweden.
 
You must be gullible. Here's the list of members:

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Detention/Pages/Members.aspx

Two associate professors, two PhDs, and a fifth academic, all in international law and/or human rights.

Well judging by his performance on newsnight last night at least one of the three who came up with this ludicrous verdict was a total idiot.

Also, if Assange really wants some weight behind a ruling, why not go to the European court of human rights or another body who actually had some relevance?
 

Yeah, mainly because it says this (my emphasis)!

According to the panel’s charter, that paragraph says the Working Group can reconsider any of its opinions

RT is very carefully not pointing out this isn't actually a legal ruling from the Working Group.

Edit: Although in fairness it's probably a valid opinion from the Working Group!
 
Not up on this but. From the little I've read Sweden has an unusual definition of rape by UK standards, and assange is is harming the concept of wikileaks by hiding behind international opinion on this.
 
Think this is the most apt thread for this:

https://www.rt.com/news/368746-un-ruling-free-assange/

I know a lot of you hate him on here especially Mr Jack. But it seems again a ruling is being upheld and the Law is not being followed by the UK Government. Is this an example of two tier justice. Yup.
It isn't a ruling. The working group is not a tribunal.

'Assange isn't being detained' - This statement by me carries as much legal weight.
 
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