Man of Honour
Yes he has. He failed to surrender to a UK court when required.
Assange to go!
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Yes he has. He failed to surrender to a UK court when required.
He also raped a woman, but he's getting away with that now.
Man of Honour
Neither of us knows enough to say that with any authority. That's what courts are for, which seems unlikely now, but we should be assuming innocence.
Soldato
I still think his future involves a deep dark hole in an American Supermax.
Soldato
Or they are not looking anything. No assurances have been give of extradition/rendition/removal. None.
The fact that the case is dropped and there are no charges means he is innocent. Or are you saying you disagree with the absolute law of "Innocent until PROVEN guilty"?
Burnsy said:
Because a UK court is going to give him a fair trial and an assurance he wont be extradited. You as a copper should know just how corrupt and insidiously devious the court system is.
ubersonic said:
I've reported this as I am 100% certain if I said you had raped a woman the post would be deleted and I would be on a holiday. This is where you lack 100% the proof of your statement (note this is not an allegation you have made... You have conclusively said he's done it)
You know he admitted it yeah? His argument was never that he didn't rape her, it was that he doesn't consider it to be rape.
Lol, that's correct but also a completely different situation as Assange is not a forum member, and admitted to the rape himself (see above). Nothing I said violated forum rules.
Soldato
It would be a worse punishment making him a vegetarian
For what crime should he be in a supermax out of curiosity?
He was never set to be tried in the UK, he was set to be extradited to Sweden where he would either have been found innocent and released, or guilty and imprisoned for x years then released.
Also, if you mean assurances he won't be extradited to the USA and not Sweden, he had that before.
Soldato
So sex is now rape? You are twisting words here. He admitted having sex. Sex does not automatically imply rape or else every person living or dead almost is guilty. You sound like a journalist.
But he didn't. You think sex is rape. There is a huge difference. Rape is forced. It matters not about not being a member. You have twisted words to suit your media induced thought.
Soldato
A great pity that we cannot put it to the test. You have a lofty view of our judicial system as being competent and free from political pressure despite everything to the contrary proving you'd view as erroneous.
Soldato
I don't think he should, but I certainly wouldn't trust the Americans not to do it, no government likes its dirty little secrets exposed.
No I think rape, as legally defined both in the UK and Sweden, is rape. Assange thinks differently, but it doesn't change the fact that he has admitted to doing something that in both this country and the one where it occurred, is rape.
Man of Honour
It's all a ploy to make Assange feel safe and then pow, right in the kisser.
Soldato
Lets talk facts then. Show me once where Assange says he "raped" one or both or these women. Just once and I will concede he did rape them. I certainly won't be waiting around for your evidence as we both know it doesn't exist.
The fact that the case has been dropped now under Law means he is innocent. If they duplicitously restart the case when he is in UK law enforcement hands we will know the power of politics.
Stop twisting words. If I said Panda you wouldn't instantly change it to elephants would you?
/facepalm
He never said he raped them, he said he did things to them which are classified as rape both in this country and the country where it happened. That doesn't mean he didn't admit to raping them, it just means he doesn't understand consent laws.
Here's an excerpt from a report on his extradition hearing:
Neither assange nor his lawyers deny he committed rape as defined under UK/Swedish/normal law, their argument is essentially that it isn't really rape if they don't say no.
It doesn't mean that. It means he's not guilty, and there's a presumption of innocence. It's a subtle difference. To illustrate, if a case being dropped equalled innocence it would prevent a case being reopened when new evidence came to light.
Caporegime
It also doesn't mean you did just because some idiot on the internet doesn't understand laws.Just because you didn't get done for it doesn't mean you didn't do it
Soldato
I suspect the Swedish caper isn't his main worry, rather the Americans holding out the prospect of 30 years in a concrete supermax cell or maybe a bit of potassium chloride in the old bloodstream...