Caporegime
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Yes thats all very well and good, but if you use that so called GPU CRAP TOOL it will break ATIpowerPlay`s uber idle temps and clocks and voltages.
I know, as said, theres ways around it, firstly, clocking right before you game, more drastic but hardly a big deal, flashing the bios.
Stability and fullproofness for the 99.9999999999999999% of users of these cards who will never overclock beyond CCC limits, infact most won't overclock ever, is more useful to a company than giving extreme limits for the few thousand who want to overclock past the limits.
Actually I honestly couldn't say if Nvidia have overclocking in their control panel, I really can't remember how I overclocked my 8800gtx, but I remember needing to use the coolbits reg hack for years, or just an external app.
So I can't really say if its better or worse than Nvidia overclocking at all, I have no clue if overclocking with certain 3rd party apps causes the equivilent of powerplay to stop working on Nvidia cards or not.
But ATi could simply not have the overdrive at all, leave all default users with no easy free 10% boost, and leave you using a 3rd party app anyway to overclock.
Its rare that rivatuner/other apps have full support for overclocking new cards in the first couple weeks, ATi tool used to take a good while to get proper overclocking support, surely the fact that gpu clock tool allows any overclock pretty clearly indicates software can bypass that limit easily.
I didn't say there limit was fantastic for all overclockers worldwide, I was just saying why it was there, a limitless CCC = thousands of users complaining about not being stable at 14Ghz, its just a bad idea all around. Even more so considering the limits aren't terrible and much more starts to need a voltage bump which again, even fewer people are willing to do.
Then ATi helped you out using chips on all cards that can allow voltage adjustment, in software.
EDIT:- Personally, though I'd like a disable powerplay button in the CCC somewhere, I welcome the fact that GPU clock tool gives me an app that can disable it easily, too often games have problems with powerplay, not using full speed in a couple games and pretty frequently windowed games won't get full speed, so enabling full speed all the time is very very useful now and then.
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