Hold on so what you're sayiing is AMD launching a card 35% quicker then the 580GTX which means it will be 65% faster then a pervious generation 5870 ? we have never seen such a big upgrade between generations so i think it's a lot of twoddle to be honest Or Prove it.
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ATI cuts 6950 allocation
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4870 to 5870 was close to that difference wasn't it?
Much more dramatic changes between them two though.
We had a 4890 and a 4870X2 i'm talking flagship the 6990 will be 35% quicker but no way the 6970 will if it is i would be surpised, Plus if it was this fast why would they delay the launch a month when they could have killed nvidias sales.. There is no sport in business.
The fermi architecture was never intended for 40nm (wasn't intended for 32 either but thats a slightly different story) infact wasn't intended to be a GeForce architecture either it was something that was kicked around in the background that may or may not have seen the light of day on <40nm processes but was pushed into service with the failure of the 3rd rehash of the 200 series architecture as nVidia were desperate and a lot has been sacrificed to make it work on 40nm. I'm assuming its possible on 28nm to move the TMUs, polymorph engines and a few others parts back to the hot clock domain as was originally intended. (I don't have enough expertise in the matter to know if that was just a pipe dream in the first place or something that was inherent to the original design).
EDIT: nVidia did intend the GT300 to be a 40nm part its not like they throught they would be using 32 or 28nm or create a design intended for that size process..
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Yes we have, in fact it's been pretty much standard for most releases. Most new releases since the 9800 pro/XT have been around a doubling in performance. 3870 to 4870 was a doubling in performance for example, as was the 4870 to 5870...
Good to know there will be plenty stock of the 6970. For those thinking will the 6970 be faster than a 580, I got news for you, how does 30-40% faster at stock sound.
That would be truly impressive. I might even buy one of these (or 6950 for that matter) if it comes true
well normally the next generation single gpu card is just below the last generation dual gpu card, which should put the 6970 just below the currant 5970. possibly just slotting in between the GTX580 and 5970.
now of course it is entirely possible that these benchmarks that raven has been emailed some numbers from could be best case scenario or maybe raven is useless at maths
without more info who knows.
now of course it is entirely possible that these benchmarks that raven has been emailed some numbers from could be best case scenario or maybe raven is useless at maths
without more info who knows.With ~20-25% less transistors running on the same 40nm process it will be very tough for the 6970 to beat GTX580. I am sure ATI can make up most of the ground with design optimisations, high core clocks and fast GDDR5 but I very much doubt 6870 will be the faster product.
555, if you have seen what I have seen you would be selling up whatever card you have and going all out for a 6970. Now look at the 6870, it's basically on par with a 5870 and it only has 1120 shaders, the 6970 has over 1900 shaders which perform significantly better than the 68** shaders, it's a monster.
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The HD6870 has 1120 stream processors in a 4+1(4 simple and one complex) arrangement meaning it has 224 shader clusters. The HD6970 as 1920 stream processors in 4 way(4 medium level complexity shaders) arrangement which means it has 480 clusters.
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555, if you have seen what I have seen you would be selling up whatever card you have and going all out for a 6970. Now look at the 6870, it's basically on par with a 5870 and it only has 1120 shaders, the 6970 has over 1900 shaders which perform significantly better than the 68** shaders, it's a monster.
Sounds pretty awesome!
Well i've canceled my order for an Asus 580GTX because A the shop i bought it from allready charged my card and they don't even have them in stock for 2plus weeks and second if the 6970 is this close to the 580 then the price on the 580 will go down a damn lot esp if they come out with this card at £330ish.
I'am fed up of waiting for this asus 580 to show up time i get delivery of the card the 6970 will be out on the market and the 580 will either stay at the same price or go down in price depending on how much the 6970 actually is.
555, if you have seen what I have seen you would be selling up whatever card you have and going all out for a 6970. Now look at the 6870, it's basically on par with a 5870 and it only has 1120 shaders, the 6970 has over 1900 shaders which perform significantly better than the 68** shaders, it's a monster.
And what exactly have you seen that you apparently can't post a link to?