Australian Grand Prix 2010, Melbourne - Race 2/19

dannyjo22 · 28 Mar 2010 at 20:16

Watching various Mclaren pieces of video and the F1 forum, where Lewis needs to be carefull is Mclaren has been his team, He gelled the team around him but they seem to have taking a real liking Jenson at Mclaren.

Too many more outbursts and it won't be helpfull for his standing within the team.

dannyjo22 · 28 Mar 2010 at 20:23

Listening to the forum and Lewis mid race using the radio wanting to know "who made the call".

Next time Lewis bins it the guy who did it should use the radio to ask lewis "wtf are you doing"

Lakeland · 28 Mar 2010 at 20:30

dannyjo22 said:
Watching various Mclaren pieces of video and the F1 forum, where Lewis needs to be carefull is Mclaren has been his team, He gelled the team around him but they seem to have taking a real liking Jenson at Mclaren.

Too many more outbursts and it won't be helpfull for his standing within the team.

This is what I was refering to in my post on the last page. No one wants to hear drivers sweet talk their teams, but for lewis' own good he needs to pipe down

NathanE · 28 Mar 2010 at 20:55

Lakeland said:
This is what I was refering to in my post on the last page. No one wants to hear drivers sweet talk their teams, but for lewis' own good he needs to pipe down

He can't win though. If he was to keep cool about it people would say he was a corporate machine. Now that, for one of the few times, he actually spoke up about it people are slating him for it as well.

Stormrider · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:01

utajoker said:
cant see it on youtube but it mite of been a redbull. cant remember if it was last year or year before.

think you mean this? though I feel I might just be opening a big can off worms.

JRS · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:04

rypt said:
Have to agree with that JRS, in the past few seasons we have seen Lewis leave it up to the team to make the class a few times rather than taking charge and saying "you know what, I need this done".

PinkFloyd said:
Nail on the head JRS

You know, the rules say that you're supposed to argue with me not agree with me. Just FYI.

hiroofheroes · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:16

dannyjo22 said:
Watching various Mclaren pieces of video and the F1 forum, where Lewis needs to be carefull is Mclaren has been his team, He gelled the team around him but they seem to have taking a real liking Jenson at Mclaren.

Too many more outbursts and it won't be helpfull for his standing within the team.

What I find more interesting is that whilst all this is going on one of Christian Horners responces to Hamiltons suggestion that Webber is due to retire at the end of the season was that Lewis was possibly looking for a drive.

Whilst I doubt this would be the case, such comments probably won't reassure the team when he is repeatedly getting upset over their actions, not just strategies but also liegate etc. - tied in with last years cars lack of performance and Mercedes moving to Brawn, there has to be suspicion at least that he may be considering a move to another team if he feels it would better his reputation and provide him with a car more likely to win.

Memphis · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:16

Stormrider said:
think you mean this? though I feel I might just be opening a big can off worms.

If he did, that incident isn't even remotely comparable to what happened today.

Well, I'm sorry to wade in at the end here with a horrible post but unfortunately I couldn't resist any longer.

There are some members here who have my respect, even if I don't necessarily agree with what they post. JRS for example is someone who I definitely don't always agree with, and yet despite some pathetic responses from me in the past, I can definitely take his points on board because he puts them across well.

That all said, MY GOD there are some appalling "F1 fans" in here. Some of the utter tripe posted over the last few pages borders on the type of 'fanboi' stuff that gets posted in Consoles or Graphics. The total lambasting of Hamilton after one race where he feels aggrieved at losing what could very well have been a great result is just frankly laughable. So apparently now McLaren are going to be looking at getting rid of him because he's too much trouble? Because now they have a new golden boy in Jenson? Give over FFS...

Anyway, now I've vented a little, don't worry about dignifying me with a response

. I'll leave you all to it!

dannyjo22 · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:20

hiroofheroes said:
What I find more interesting is that whilst all this is going on one of Christian Horners responces to Hamiltons suggestion that Webber is due to retire at the end of the season was that Lewis was possibly looking for a drive..

Haha I missed that. I was thinking earlier that Webbers days might be numbered now and who might we see there. I was thinking it might be Kubicas one year deal at renault giving him the option to bail out to red bull.

Most teams would want lewis, but fitting him in and not causing disruption might put people off, which is why I think he's better off staying put and learning to talk to the team before airing the teams laundry in public.

dannyjo22 · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:22

Memphis said:
So apparently now McLaren are going to be looking at getting rid of him because he's too much trouble?

Whats laughable is no-one has even suggested that.

JRS · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:24

Hi Memphis. I know you said not to bother dignifying you with a response, but you should know me better by know

I'm not sure it's fair to compare this thread with what goes on in the Graphics forum. I occasionally pop in there, and it really is beyond a joke. It's probably time that a few of the posters there had their access to that section blocked. I know if I had moderating duties I'd be fairly unpopular with some of those guys - they'd be lucky if I didn't ban them from the entire forum because they're a waste of perfectly good bandwith.

This being said - it's also probably a good idea that I don't have moderating duties for this forum as well.

Phase 1 - ban sunama
Phase 2 - ???
Phase 3 - profit!

stoke1863 · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:32

Good race today F1 needed that badly.

Lewis was awsome today its a shame his team messed it up for him and webber took him out but thats life.

Button was very good setting PB's near the last 14 laps of the GP showing people he can look after the tyres.

Why was schumi so slow in the end? Did he get a bit of damage on lap 1?

Also great race from Kubica.

Flibster · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:36

hiroofheroes said:
What I find more interesting is that whilst all this is going on one of Christian Horners responces to Hamiltons suggestion that Webber is due to retire at the end of the season was that Lewis was possibly looking for a drive.

Whilst I doubt this would be the case, such comments probably won't reassure the team when he is repeatedly getting upset over their actions, not just strategies but also liegate etc. - tied in with last years cars lack of performance and Mercedes moving to Brawn, there has to be suspicion at least that he may be considering a move to another team if he feels it would better his reputation and provide him with a car more likely to win.

It's more interesting that there has been reports today that Red Bull have signed Raikkonen for 2011

Given their current drivers - which would you get rid of for Raikkonen?

dannyjo22 · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:39

Wow didn't know that was a rumour. Either they expect to lose vettel to Mercedes (unlikely at the minute) or webbers about to start job hunting.

SKILL · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:40

Flibster said:
It's more interesting that there has been reports today that Red Bull have signed Raikkonen for 2011

Given their current drivers - which would you get rid of for Raikkonen?

Webber? He's neither overly quick, nor that consistantly 'good' really...

Although there's also the rumours of Vettel going to Mercedes 'at some point'

Hamilton and Raikkonen at Red Bull?

NathanE · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:47

Memphis said:
If he did, that incident isn't even remotely comparable to what happened today.

Well, I'm sorry to wade in at the end here with a horrible post but unfortunately I couldn't resist any longer.

There are some members here who have my respect, even if I don't necessarily agree with what they post. JRS for example is someone who I definitely don't always agree with, and yet despite some pathetic responses from me in the past, I can definitely take his points on board because he puts them across well.

That all said, MY GOD there are some appalling "F1 fans" in here. Some of the utter tripe posted over the last few pages borders on the type of 'fanboi' stuff that gets posted in Consoles or Graphics. The total lambasting of Hamilton after one race where he feels aggrieved at losing what could very well have been a great result is just frankly laughable. So apparently now McLaren are going to be looking at getting rid of him because he's too much trouble? Because now they have a new golden boy in Jenson? Give over FFS...

Anyway, now I've vented a little, don't worry about dignifying me with a response . I'll leave you all to it!

Are you reading another thread or something? The discussion in here about LH has been very civilised and people have generally been respectful, for once, of each others opinions.. Quite unusual actually!

NathanE · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:50

SKILL said:
Webber? He's neither overly quick, nor that consistantly 'good' really...

Although there's also the rumours of Vettel going to Mercedes 'at some point'

Hamilton and Raikkonen at Red Bull?

MW was shocking in Bahrain too. He kept understeering all over the place, seemingly because he couldn't be bothered to modulate the throttle. Not sure how he escaped Bahrain with not even a whisper of criticism.

The KR rumours will keep rumbling all year. At the end the day Red Bull have proven they are a top team now (just been unlucky with supplier QA!!) so I would say KR is definately in the hunt for 2011!

Flibster · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:53

I reckon that if Schumacher retires again at the end of the year *entirely possible at the moment*, Vettel will then go to Mercedes.

I like the idea of Raikkonen and Vettel at Red Bull though. Sadly they're neither particularly gentle on cars so finishing races could be rare.

NathanE · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:58

I don't think Vettel will quit RBR yet. Isn't he under contract for a few more years yet?

I don't think that Austrian boss of Red Bull will let him go.

dannyjo22 · 28 Mar 2010 at 21:59

I hope and pray that a year off gives back the old Kimi. Yeah he was grey and dull and a swappable plug and play device when they safely removed Mika but when he was on it in a car that was working he was a pleasure to watch.

I agree I'd love to see him paired with Vettel if that Kimi was back