Australian Grand Prix 2011, Albert Park Circuit - Race 1/19

maybe the car is just setup/built in a manner that is designed specifically in a way that helps conserve tyres, with kamui 2 stopping because he is probably the more mental of the 2. Guess we'll see next race when they run a legal rear wing.
 
maybe the car is just setup/built in a manner that is designed specifically in a way that helps conserve tyres, with kamui 2 stopping because he is probably the more mental of the 2. Guess we'll see next race when they run a legal rear wing.

Yeah it's possible. I'm just amazed with this kid. Literally his FIRST GP on a track he doesn't know and he manages to run softs for half his run. Yeah Petrov did well, but I'd give this guy drive of the day.
 
You've gotta love all these rookies coming into the sport, it makes many of the current drivers look like they have become complacent and have just got used to the pecking order. There are a few drivers (imo) that shouldn't be there this year, and none of them are rookies.
I read an article on PF1's site their "winners and loosers" of the GP and they have a good old go at DC&Brundles commentary, and I have to say I totally disagree with what they said. I found the commentary to be far far better than Leggards babbling, with few mistakes made and even less stupid questions. They say that the new pairing doesn't give enough information for viewers that know less about F1, to that I say those people could always use the CBBC feed, or 5live.
 
So whats everyones general concensus of the race?

Exciting?

I just watched some of the highlights this morning and have to say.. wasn't really blown away. Just seems to be faster cars stuck behind slower cars (Massa v Button was a fine example) and overtaking a myth.
 
How has the spirit of the rules been demolished by Ferarri?.
Because the rules are there for the driver in question who lost a place - not in regards to being in conjunction with team orders and the other driver gaining a place as well

Button should have yielded the place back straight away.

If Alonso wasnt inbetween them, Im sure he would have

Button himself said Massa was out of position, so is it unreasonable to think that Alonso genuinely passed him? How many times have we seen someone defending position, only for them to make a silly mistake and the guy following the squabble also passes at or around the same time..

Just look at the replay - Massa let him through, its blatantly obvious

There was no mistake by Massa at all, dont even know why you are trying to suggest there was , he just doesnt accelerate as he normally would until Alonso is past him

Did the Sauber rear wing which was later disqualified allow their tyres to be run for a longer distance compared to the other teams or was Perez actually that good that he could climb the field and still use only 2 sets.

I think both McLarens had only two tyre stops - and maybe other teams did also - so its not particularly notable that Sauber were able to go for 2 stops for each car ( would it be possible to design a car around a basic premis of low tyre wear? For a mid grid team like Sauber it could be a way to go). Really unfortunate they got DSQ'd from well deserved points
 
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So whats everyones general concensus of the race?

Exciting?

I just watched some of the highlights this morning and have to say.. wasn't really blown away. Just seems to be faster cars stuck behind slower cars (Massa v Button was a fine example) and overtaking a myth.

dull very uninspiring affair, the best part was buttons suicide overtake that got him the pit penalty. Hes the only one that actually seemed up for racing this weekend.

F1 cant keep on adding new rule after new rule and automatically expecting more overtaking - as its not going to happen. In reality the whole sport needs to be looked at from the ground up and completely restructured. removing refueling, or changing tire degridation isnt going to fix the massive problems that are becoming ever more apparant season after season.

and the new boost drs **** whatever it is - is a complete waste of time and money, and in no way makes the races more exciting with its 0.00001% speed increase, infact judging from yesterday it was slowing the cars down not speeding them up...and whats with the flap opening? surely that is going to negatively effect aerodynamics?

Schumacher really needs a new team fast, or brawn just needs to pull his finger out of his ass and get a car thats at least 50% competant at lasting a whole race. Schumacher doesnt need a top spec car to be competitive he just needs one that actually works.
 
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I think both McLarens had only two tyre stops - and maybe other teams did also - so its not particularly notable that Sauber were able to go for 2 stops for each car ( would it be possible to design a car around a basic premis of low tyre wear? For a mid grid team like Sauber it could be a way to go). Really unfortunate they got DSQ'd from well deserved points
Perez only stopped the once. Which, given the wear rate of the Pirellis in testing, is quite a surprise.

It's definately possible to design a car to be easy on it's tyres, however to concentrate on that alone would compromise other areas of the cars development which would end up being a major detriment to overall laptime which would negate any benefit of reduced pitstops.
 
They say that the new pairing doesn't give enough information for viewers that know less about F1, to that I say those people could always use the CBBC feed, or 5live.

You wouldn't expect a football commentator to explain the offside rule mid-match so why do we expect F1 commentators to explain the rules of F1 all the time. I mean, discuss rule changes by all means, and weird oddities of rules but - come on - we can't have commentary aimed at newbies all the time.
 
I read an article on PF1's site their "winners and loosers" of the GP and they have a good old go at DC&Brundles commentary, and I have to say I totally disagree with what they said. I found the commentary to be far far better than Leggards babbling, with few mistakes made and even less stupid questions. They say that the new pairing doesn't give enough information for viewers that know less about F1, to that I say those people could always use the CBBC feed, or 5live.

I completely disagreed with the comments on PF1 too. I was quite surprised with how well DC did tbh. Glad they finally got rid of that tool Legard, he really annoyed me with the rubbish he would go on about.
 
i switched to TV commentary and found it surprisingly good. Brundle was restrained like he was with Legard.

Perez's tyre wear is interesting considering he was lapping very in the 1:30/31s which was pretty good at the time.
 
Horner on KERS (from autosport)

"We tested it, we ran the system earlier in the weekend and we decided that there was a potential, albeit small chance, of a reliability issue with it so we elected not to run it this weekend," he explained. "But obviously we didn't want to tell the world – although looking at the start the guys had, it looked like we didn't need it."

Horner said he was also amused by the speculation that had run around the paddock suggesting his team had a lightweight start-only KERS system.

"You guys [the media] went off on a great little tangent, but the problem is that you have probably made Adrian [Newey] think of that one now! I can blame you lot for that then."
 
Perez only stopped the once. Which, given the wear rate of the Pirellis in testing, is quite a surprise.

Its been known for a while that the Renault is a decent car (and how dreadful Heidfeld is lol), so Im not that surprised that Perez did the race in one stop

It's definately possible to design a car to be easy on it's tyres, however to concentrate on that alone would compromise other areas of the cars development which would end up being a major detriment to overall laptime which would negate any benefit of reduced pitstops.

I was meaning more in my previous question that - its unlikely a F1 car would be designed with this as a principal - and it would be more a by-product of other choices made during the design process. :)
 
Petrov races for Renault, not Perez, mate :p

opps totally misread the quote hahaha

Perez was outstanding then (and deserved the points even more because of it) - I really feel for Sauber

Where the dimensions marginally out or by quite a factor? I noted the bbc article states the part in question isnt even a working surface

I hope they win the appeal (even though that means Di Resta losses his point for a good race)
 
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Before last season started Bridgestone said that Sauber were incredibly easy on the tyres so I guess they have continue in that vain. Also the Hard/soft combo is same as the one that will be used in Sepang which is much harder on tyres and we are certain to see much higher tyre wear- and possible blistering due to higher track temps.
 
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