Australian Grand Prix 2012, Albert Park Circuit - Race 1/20

DRS zones

LqlaD.gif
 
Hmm... Canada style. Not sure thats gonna work. But then we didn't see much overtaking into turn 1 last year so it might be ok.
 
One DRS detection zone and two activation zones....

Oh dear. Well that gives the overtaker a huge advantage over the overtakee. The ability to get past in zone 1 and then extend out in zone 2. Utter crap.
 
I liked what Brundle said on Sky, he would rather defend DRS than boring races, I tend to agree.

No no no and he should be shot for that. Also they've massively closed the following distance since drs was introduced, removing the whole point of them in the first place. Not that they acheive their aim any way. Doubly so when there isn't two detection points and it makes no different who you're following.
 
+1

Not a fan of push to pass.

If its push to pass then its broke. DRS should be push to get side by side.

Admittedly the FIA didn't get it right a lot of the time last year, but there were places where it worked well (China for example). Give it time. The idea is good, its just very difficult to get it right.

Completely agree that it shouldn't be activated when your 1s behind anyone though. It should only be when you are behind someone who is ahead of you in the race, not backmarkers. It should never be available to the leader.
 
Last edited:
If Hamilton puts himself on the market then they would be stupid not to.

And I see no issue with having 2 top drivers in the same team. I think the whole Senna/Prost thing has blurred peoples vision. Why do team mates have to get on?
I would think the fact that so few teams over the years have had two top drawer drivers would answer that question by itself - because most of those racers prefer to feel as though the team is built around them.

I'm not saying that everyone has to be best buddies in a team, but there's a difference between that and outright hostility. Personally, it has nothing to do with Senna and Prost, I just think that Vettel and Hamilton strike me as two people that would really not get along under the same roof. Button and Vettel? Sure. Hamilton and Vettel? Nah.
 
I'd love to see a race without DRS. I suspect that the current set of regs mean it's just not needed; it was a crude fix for a problem better solved at the same time by other means.
 
I would think the fact that so few teams over the years have had two top drawer drivers would answer that question by itself - because most of those racers prefer to feel as though the team is built around them.

I'm not saying that everyone has to be best buddies in a team, but there's a difference between that and outright hostility. Personally, it has nothing to do with Senna and Prost, I just think that Vettel and Hamilton strike me as two people that would really not get along under the same roof. Button and Vettel? Sure. Hamilton and Vettel? Nah.

Interesting how things change. Everyone thought Button going to McLaren was a bad move and that Hamilton would walk all over him with a team solely focused around him (me included).

But my point remains, why do they have to get on? I'm fairly certain that Vettel and Webber aren't holidaying together. Or does both team mate need to be in the top 2 drivers on the grid for them not being friends to be an issue? I just think the whole team mate relationship thing is massively over blown. Surely for anyone in any team their team mate is the first person on their list of people to beat, regardless if weather that's some random pay driver who has achieved little, or a double world champ?

And regardless, it would be dam good show to watch! :D
 
I'd love to see a race without DRS. I suspect that the current set of regs mean it's just not needed; it was a crude fix for a problem better solved at the same time by other means.

Well it's not like they are limited to overtaking in the DRS zone, so if they can pass without it then they will :)
 
Interesting how things change. Everyone thought Button going to McLaren was a bad move and that Hamilton would walk all over him with a team solely focused around him (me included).

But my point remains, why do they have to get on? I'm fairly certain that Vettel and Webber aren't holidaying together. Or does both team mate need to be in the top 2 drivers on the grid for them not being friends to be an issue? I just think the whole team mate relationship thing is massively over blown. Surely for anyone in any team their team mate is the first person on their list of people to beat, regardless if weather that's some random pay driver who has achieved little, or a double world champ?

And regardless, it would be dam good show to watch! :D
Like I said, there's nothing to say that two drivers who don't get along with each other can still do their jobs. It's just when you get fireworks that it risks it. Hell, Senna/Prost worked, in that McLaren just counted the money all the way home. It was Alonso/Hamilton that nearly cost them.

And I'm agreed with you about wanting it to happen for entertainment value :p. I just don't think it will.
 
Well it's not like they are limited to overtaking in the DRS zone, so if they can pass without it then they will :)

And plenty of overtakes where outside drz zone, but why overtake at another part of track when you have DRS.

However, just 29 per cent of the passes in 2011 have been the result of DRS – the remaining 71 per cent constituted by lapping instances, team-mate battles and non-DRS passes – and only in Shanghai, Istanbul, Barcelona and Valencia have DRS-assisted moves outnumbered normal moves. The highest number of DRS passes was seen in Turkey with 50; the fewest was in Monaco with just two, whilst Melbourne (five) and Silverstone (six) similarly benefitted little from the adjustable rear wing.

It's just not needed, it was fia panic to double diffuser loophole, once that was removed following distances halved and have continued to close. I expect they'll be slightly closer again this year.
 
Last edited:
I think the biggest stopper to the idea is simply that Hamilton won't leave McLaren. If this years car is a good'un and he's in the title race then I can see him re-signing fairly quickly. It doesn't hurt to have a few other teams interested to help push up your pay though, does it :p
 
I think the biggest stopper to the idea is simply that Hamilton won't leave McLaren. If this years car is a good'un and he's in the title race then I can see him re-signing fairly quickly. It doesn't hurt to have a few other teams interested to help push up your pay though, does it :p

Or the other bigger stopper being RBR don't want/need him? Love how you think he can handpick the team he wants to join. His stock is low, another season being beaten by Jenson will see that drop further.
 
I don't think 1 season will have religated him to being considered a mediocre driver. You still think Alonso is top drawer and he's done very little since 2006. Lewis is still in that small group of top drivers and I simply refuse to beleive that RBR will just completely ignore him if he expresses and interest to leave McLaren.

Although it sounds as though they might have a fight with Merc on their hands if he does.
 
Alonso has done very little? really LOL Alonso has proven his talent over and over.

Let's see 2007, nearly won the title despite his own team trying to beat him, 2008, 2 race wins in a dog of a car (let's call it 1), 2009 shone out once again in a poor car just like he did in Minardi, 2010 took the title to the last day in a inferior car, 2011, 1 race win and 10 podiums in a car behind RBR and McLaren, yeah off course he has done little....

Despite Horner saying they will not be interested in Lewis off course they are interested :D
 
Back
Top Bottom