Poll: Australian Grand Prix 2018, Melbourne - Race 1/21

[Slam62]

Australia is always hopeless, Totto accepted sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, Vettell even said so,
My take is Merc are faster, So it is going to be difficult to beat .

Bottas needs to wake up,Vandorn needs to wake up, leclerc needs to wake up.

Max had a bad weekend

Same old same old

 

[Domo]

Shouldn’t be able to profit under a safety feature, this has spoilt the race, Ham can’t beat fresher tyres.

Unless it's LH of course. These threads are rather amusing when LH doesn't win. Especially where there are circumstances which can in anyway excuse LH of any responsibility for not coming first.

Can't believe people are saying Ferrari/Vettel are assisted by the FIA. In Race 1. Just LOL.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

So once again, nearing the end of the race. We could race, but no, engines all get turned down.

 

[bayo000]

So Vettel was first when VSC was deployed and was still first when it went to full safety car. Sounds like it worked as it is supposed to.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

So Vettel was first when VSC was deployed and was still first when it went to full safety car. Sounds like it worked as it is supposed to.

You’re missing the point.

People are aggrieved because instead of having a 23 second time through the pits with a pit stop deficit to your opponent because of the Virtual Safety Car, that becomes 13 seconds. So he gained 10 seconds free of charge.

 

[bayo000]

You’re missing the point.

People are aggrieved because instead of having a 23 second time through the pits with a pit stop deficit to your opponent because of the Virtual Safety Car, that becomes 13 seconds. So he gained 10 seconds free of charge.

Ehm no I don't think I am missing anything. He was first, under the rules he can pit to change tires which he did and came back out first. It's just unlucky in this race for Hamilton. I'm pretty sure he benefited from SC in the past and will no doubt benefit again in future.

 

[Domo]

But that could have worked in Hamilton's favour on another day and probably has. Safety cars (virtual or otherwise) are frustrating depending on who your driver or team is and how the race is progressing. Can and does make races more exciting.

Edit/ In response to EVH.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

But that could have worked in Hamilton's favour on another day and probably has. Safety cars (virtual or otherwise) are frustrating depending on who your driver or team is and how the race is progressing. Can and does make races more exciting.

Edit/ In response to EVH.

I’m not complaining, just pointing out why some posters are miffed. 10 seconds is huge in f1 and the fact that the pit entry is quicker than the normal route is bad design.

Has he gained before? Of course. Doesn’t change the fact that he’s got the wrong end of the shake today.

 

[XeNoN89]

So looks like Merc are still fastest overall but Ferrari are close enough that if anything goes slightly in their favour they can take the chance to win

 

[andicole0]

Did anyone get this in UHD from Sky, my box recorded just HD and there doesn't seem to be a UHD version on catchup?
Andi.

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

If the rules allow it, it's allowed. It's the gamble of delaying your stop waiting for an incident. It's often a last throw of the dice strategy-wise.
Well done Ferrari.
Let's hope this puts Hamilton off his stride and makes for a great battle over the season

Interesting race from my point of view. Bottas race looked even worse because overtaking is so hard here. I think it was a steady recovery drive considering the circuit.

 

[Mr Jack]

If the rules allow it, it's allowed. It's the gamble of delaying your stop waiting for an incident. It's often a last throw of the dice strategy-wise.
Well done Ferrari.

Yeah, exactly. Vettel got lucky, but he got lucky because Ferrari chose a strategy that opened up the possibility of that luck.

 

[Glanza]

Shame with Haas other than that nothing too different from last year.

 

[KiNgPiN83]

So once again, nearing the end of the race. We could race, but no, engines all get turned down.

Isn't it 3 engines per season now?? If so, this is going to happen a lot more I'm afraid.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Agree. Doesn't look like Lewis has an answer in the dirty air. Merc getting arrogant with the car design again?

Really, how often do people state these completely daft things. In tracks you can't pass in general and everyone struggles to pass, the Merc struggles to pass and people insist the Merc but no one else is a car designed only to lead and sucks in dirty air. At all the tracks that have good overtaking the Merc has exactly on trouble at all but it's entirely ignored because it doesn't fit the narrative people literally made up.

RBR supposedly has the best aero, people don't talk about it struggling to overtake due to dirty air, yet Ricciardo struggled to pass a obviously slowly Kimi. Every car struggled to pass today because it's a pretty awful track for racing.

Some tracks suck for overtaking, they suck every year, Monaco, Australia, Spain, etc.

Everyone got stuck today, it's a generally awful track. The people seem good, the atmosphere seems good, the track itself looks visually good, fast laps look good in qualifying, but the racing is terrible. It's similar to Monaco in that respect, it looks great in qualifying but the race is usually terrible.

 

[drunkenmaster]

Isn't it 3 engines per season now?? If so, this is going to happen a lot more I'm afraid.

No one turned down their engines just to save the engines, they turned down the engines when they all accepted they couldn't make passes at a track with terrible passing. They kept in touch hoping for a mistake then with a few laps to go everyone gave up. Frankly they could all have backed off a couple of seconds the whole race with the same result.

I think the track needs significant changes to improve the racing. The only straight with good width is between turn 10 and 13, but turns 11/12 are too narrow, too fast, way too single file and they ruin the straights. If you get a good exit at turn 10 and get in the slipstream you have to back off going into 11/12 while the car ahead doesn't and then 12 > 13 is too short to get back in drs and make a pass. If those corners were made wider and less sharp such that someone can hang out on either side to continue without backing off we might finally have a significant number of passes down into turn 13 or along the straight itself.



On the Haas situation, did anyone actually see any good replays, it was odd because every time I've seen a loose/poorly attached wheel it's been really visible how much a tire is wobbling and threatening to come off the car but neither Haas that I noticed looked like it had a problem. Outside of the pit crew indicating a problem I couldn't see the problem on either car. Also seemed strange because both times the pit crew finished, leant away from the car which is generally taken by the team to let the car go then as it left they freaked out, but usually if there is a problem the tire guys are still all over the tire and trying to get it on, they don't back off like they are finished. THe whole situation was odd.

 

[cuke2u]

Did anyone get this in UHD from Sky, my box recorded just HD and there doesn't seem to be a UHD version on catchup?
Andi.

It was weird, I had mine set to record uhd and eight hours later it was still recording, supposedly, the race. I think they forgot to send out a end recording signal, or something like that.
Glad Seb is still smiling and if Lewis had taken advantage of the rule then the majority here would be saying what a brilliant decision it was...

 

[holdin09]

Agree with the bit about haas

 

[Freakbro]

Did anyone get this in UHD from Sky, my box recorded just HD and there doesn't seem to be a UHD version on catchup?
Andi.

If you record off the Sky F1 HD channel (406) it only does HD, you need to go to home/sports/ultra HD and set it to record from there.

@chriscatt Yea, mine did the same....hope they fix that for next time....129gb file later

 

[jonneymendoza]

lucky win