Avatar: The Way of the water (Dec 2022)
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Watched it last night.
As a few have said, visually stunning.
As for story, not sure there was one. Nothing of note comes to mind, all quite forgettable.
I'd give it 4/10
As a few have said, visually stunning.
As for story, not sure there was one. Nothing of note comes to mind, all quite forgettable.
I'd give it 4/10
Watched it this afternoon in 3D, stunning visuals, mediocre story as expected but well worth the watching, dont even think about waiting to see it at home, see it at a good Cinema with good sound and in 3D ... let your hair down and enjoy.
Meant to say, when it gets released on Blu Ray hope a 3D version is made too, glad I kept my old 60" 3D TV now.
Meant to say, when it gets released on Blu Ray hope a 3D version is made too, glad I kept my old 60" 3D TV now.
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I can finally post in this thread now I've seen it. Apologies for the copy and paste from another thread but here's my take (no plot spoilers). I have it 8/10:
Watched it at our local Odeon Luxe in 3D. I don't do great with 3D but family wanted it so I went along. Once my eyes adjusted I got used to the motion blur and what not and enjoyed the film.
The drawbacks were motion and storyline.
Starting with motion, I felt like the entire thing was similar to when you walk through a TV department and they're all set to the sales display mode with everything looking really fast and unnaturally moving. Some of the physics seemed inconsistent and there were a few moments the movements were similar to game cut scenes.
As for storyline, I won't spoil it but I just thought things could have been better.
If this film came out of nowhere it would possibly get a 9/10. Since I watched the original a couple of days ago in 1080p I couldn't help feel a tad underwhelmed and that we haven't been gifted 13-14 years of improvements.
Overall a really good film with beautiful depth of colour and fantastic image quality, bar the above issues.
Watched it at our local Odeon Luxe in 3D. I don't do great with 3D but family wanted it so I went along. Once my eyes adjusted I got used to the motion blur and what not and enjoyed the film.
The drawbacks were motion and storyline.
Starting with motion, I felt like the entire thing was similar to when you walk through a TV department and they're all set to the sales display mode with everything looking really fast and unnaturally moving. Some of the physics seemed inconsistent and there were a few moments the movements were similar to game cut scenes.
As for storyline, I won't spoil it but I just thought things could have been better.
If this film came out of nowhere it would possibly get a 9/10. Since I watched the original a couple of days ago in 1080p I couldn't help feel a tad underwhelmed and that we haven't been gifted 13-14 years of improvements.
Overall a really good film with beautiful depth of colour and fantastic image quality, bar the above issues.
I watched this in IMAX 3D and I really enjoyed it, though it is not without flaws.
In IMAX it switches between 24 and 48fps depending on the action in the scene and this can be a little jarring, with some scenes having the 'soap opera' effect where they look unnaturally smooth, and then the 24fps sequences looking jerky by comparison.
It is visually stunning but sometimes it can seem a bit like a videogame cutscene. It just has that sharpness and smoothness you are in videogames.
The 3D is incredible. I hope this gets a 3D Blu-ray release.
The story isn't amazing, and like the first film suffers a bit from some heavy-handed environmental messaging, and cardboard villains.
It does go into family values and relationships though which adds a strong emotional core.
I'd say 9/10 just for pure visual spectacle.
In IMAX it switches between 24 and 48fps depending on the action in the scene and this can be a little jarring, with some scenes having the 'soap opera' effect where they look unnaturally smooth, and then the 24fps sequences looking jerky by comparison.
It is visually stunning but sometimes it can seem a bit like a videogame cutscene. It just has that sharpness and smoothness you are in videogames.
The 3D is incredible. I hope this gets a 3D Blu-ray release.
The story isn't amazing, and like the first film suffers a bit from some heavy-handed environmental messaging, and cardboard villains.
It does go into family values and relationships though which adds a strong emotional core.
I'd say 9/10 just for pure visual spectacle.
Soldato
I looked at the time about 4 times 
all i can say right now 3d bluray has to happen
all i can say right now 3d bluray has to happen
Soldato
… with an extended edition to hit the 4 hour mark.
Also other thoughts - even though the score for the first one wasn’t massively memorable this wasn’t as strong as Horner‘s (RIP) work and it reminded me of how Dune gave us something different when it came to creating a sci-fi soundtrack. Pandora deserves better.
-Pandora itself still the most memorable character
Also other thoughts - even though the score for the first one wasn’t massively memorable this wasn’t as strong as Horner‘s (RIP) work and it reminded me of how Dune gave us something different when it came to creating a sci-fi soundtrack. Pandora deserves better.
-Pandora itself still the most memorable character
hey Eywa, why u make the 3 laws for the Na’Vi to deliberately keep them from developing past the hunter/gatherer level?
Caporegime
Watched it last night and just my 2 cents.
It looks amazing, really amazing. I cannot really tell where the real human begins and the CGI stops. I don’t even know if the Spider character is CGI or what. It looks realistic in all the right places.
Story-wise, dull. I remember I looked at my watch and it was 1hr and 10mins in and thought…there’s 2 more hours of this left! What cemented my feelings on this is that I haven’t thought about it since I watched it until I came to write it down now. It didn’t linger in my mind at all and I think I will forget it pretty soon. Was I bored? not exactly but I also think it didn't need to be that long.
It looks amazing, really amazing. I cannot really tell where the real human begins and the CGI stops. I don’t even know if the Spider character is CGI or what. It looks realistic in all the right places.
Story-wise, dull. I remember I looked at my watch and it was 1hr and 10mins in and thought…there’s 2 more hours of this left! What cemented my feelings on this is that I haven’t thought about it since I watched it until I came to write it down now. It didn’t linger in my mind at all and I think I will forget it pretty soon. Was I bored? not exactly but I also think it didn't need to be that long.
Soldato
I really enjoyed, visually it is spectacular, never seen anything else like it. The story is OK and moves the film on at a good pace to get to the set pieces like the whale going full battle mode 
Watched this last night I got a 21:30 viewing and I didn't leave the cinema till 1AM.
As others have said the CGI is phenomenal. The amount of detail is incredible. The creature design is really good. The machine design was also fascinating and I don't think they got enough screen time IMO, but then again I just like robots (maybe the 4 hour directors cut will fix that
). I think I might have to get the artbook for the film. As someone who dabbles in 3D art, the design and technical aspect were amazing to see. This film probably took so long because they were waiting till they could get single socket CPUs with TB of RAM. The water physics alone probably took 2 years just to simulate and then another 2 years to render. I really hope some of the people who worked on the CGI do some candid podcasts/interview, just talking about the process.
I wasn't expecting it to be running at 48fps, and it did take a while to get use to. I could mostly ignore the transitions between 24 and 48. I don't think there is a streaming service out there that can do this movie justice from a visuals point of view. So either see it in cinema or get the Blu-ray.
The story is lacking, act two was boring and kind of cringy at times, very dumb at some points. Though I did like the family dynamic between them. The humans are so, one dimensional that I'm surprised they weren't rendered as lines. As for Spider or is it Spyder
There is so much potential for a good story set in this universe.
As others have said the CGI is phenomenal. The amount of detail is incredible. The creature design is really good. The machine design was also fascinating and I don't think they got enough screen time IMO, but then again I just like robots (maybe the 4 hour directors cut will fix that
). I think I might have to get the artbook for the film. As someone who dabbles in 3D art, the design and technical aspect were amazing to see. This film probably took so long because they were waiting till they could get single socket CPUs with TB of RAM. The water physics alone probably took 2 years just to simulate and then another 2 years to render. I really hope some of the people who worked on the CGI do some candid podcasts/interview, just talking about the process.I wasn't expecting it to be running at 48fps, and it did take a while to get use to. I could mostly ignore the transitions between 24 and 48. I don't think there is a streaming service out there that can do this movie justice from a visuals point of view. So either see it in cinema or get the Blu-ray.
The story is lacking, act two was boring and kind of cringy at times, very dumb at some points. Though I did like the family dynamic between them. The humans are so, one dimensional that I'm surprised they weren't rendered as lines. As for Spider or is it Spyder
The trust and bond between him and Neytiri, should be dead in the water by the end of the film. In fact, I thought they were going to try and salvage the relationship somehow by having Spider save her or something like that but nope. Everything is just swept under the rug. When they watched the dashcam on how the dude died, they were showing some emotion on his face and I thought maybe there was some conflict between Spider and Sully/Neytiri. Maybe they never told him how his Dad really died, but nope that went nowhere as well.
There is so much potential for a good story set in this universe.
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Caporegime
I think we have all been "marvelled" by action action action. Similar in how music is crap now as it instantly hits you with the beat and there is no story and build up. It is the I want it now generation. I thought Avatar was superb in its build-up and lore of how everything works in the new setting.
Think of it as Alien and the next Avatar will be Aliens with all out action as nothing will really need explaining.
Man of Honour
Watched it last night at vue in 2D, they have these amazing new recliner "saver"s seats that are very soft and plush real leather and smell/feel so good - The seats are actually huge lol so will def be watching other films at Vue. Basically got the tickets at Vue for around £4.50 each so no complaints.
Onto the movie itself, I immediately noticed the 60fps "smoothed motion" - You know the type that is on by default on new TVs you buy that makes everything feel like it was running on a CGI animation?
I felt that smooth motion ruined the cinema experience as it does not look or feel natural vs standard cinema framerates. The quality of the CGI was very good obviously but for a movie that lasts 3 hours 12 mins I felt that the dragging along of MANY scenes was extremely tedious.
Also the action scenes, plenty of scenes where say a boat gets hit by an explosion and the whole thing just bounces about like as if it's a toy lightweight boat bouncing around. I've played computer games with more accurate action physics than that so not sure how Cameron let things like that slide.
I'm not going to rate this movie as don't feel it warrants a rating. Some crisp visuals in the actual forest bits itself, but lots of annoyances like shoddy action scenes, average acting from the military personnel, lengthy dialogue/other scenes that drag on endlessly etc etc. I found myself wanting to doze off throughout.
It is 30mins to 1 hour longe than it should have been easily.
It felt like they were riding the popularity wave of the first film, but that was at a time where nothing else competed.... Cameron says he didn't want to do this movie until now because the technology exists to do the water etc now like never before. Well I've seen many movies that do CGI better and more accurately that are older than this so not sure what he's referring to.
And there are multiple follow-up movies planned in the franchise over coming years...
Onto the movie itself, I immediately noticed the 60fps "smoothed motion" - You know the type that is on by default on new TVs you buy that makes everything feel like it was running on a CGI animation?
I felt that smooth motion ruined the cinema experience as it does not look or feel natural vs standard cinema framerates. The quality of the CGI was very good obviously but for a movie that lasts 3 hours 12 mins I felt that the dragging along of MANY scenes was extremely tedious.
Also the action scenes, plenty of scenes where say a boat gets hit by an explosion and the whole thing just bounces about like as if it's a toy lightweight boat bouncing around. I've played computer games with more accurate action physics than that so not sure how Cameron let things like that slide.
I'm not going to rate this movie as don't feel it warrants a rating. Some crisp visuals in the actual forest bits itself, but lots of annoyances like shoddy action scenes, average acting from the military personnel, lengthy dialogue/other scenes that drag on endlessly etc etc. I found myself wanting to doze off throughout.
It is 30mins to 1 hour longe than it should have been easily.
It felt like they were riding the popularity wave of the first film, but that was at a time where nothing else competed.... Cameron says he didn't want to do this movie until now because the technology exists to do the water etc now like never before. Well I've seen many movies that do CGI better and more accurately that are older than this so not sure what he's referring to.
And there are multiple follow-up movies planned in the franchise over coming years...
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Caporegime
Beautiful visuals, everything else was complete dross. Story was non existent. Everything was paint by numbers. Could have lost 1/3rd of its run time and been far better for it. Felt like a 3 hour tech demo.
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Think I'll pass, it's been too long since the first and even that wasn't even that good.