Bahrain Grand Prix 2010, Sakhir - Race 1/19
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BOOOOOYAAAAAAAA!
Nice opening race, cant wait until Silverstone!
Damn you. I placed Vettel 2nd, Alonso 1st. I might've been right had Vettel not had the problem.
But well done.
Soldato
The most interesting thing I thought was seeing the Cosworth (Williams) Boss on the Ferrari (Torro Rosso) in a side by side straight out drag.
Bodes well.
Bodes well.
Difference is we usually see overtaking in midfield that did not happen today. I can see this will be similar for most races unless teams two stop.
Heavy fuel load combined with the aerodynamics has exaggerated the affects we have seen for the last ~10 years. But it is early days, so we will have to wait and see. I still think regulations need a massive change away from aerodynamic and towards mechanical. Especially engine development. Restricting fuel loads year on year. Brings "green" to the sport and is where companies will happily invest in. Especially if they allow other fuels to be used in the rules. Although I would expect they would need to be in the rules for a good 3-5 year before anyone attempted a fuel cell or other car.
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It was quite a dull race to be honest, nothing actually happened besides Vettel's mechanical problems allowing Alonso, Massa and eventually Hamilton through.
Was glad to see that stupid grin taken off Christian Horners face though when that happened. Hoping that today is just the first of many wins for Alonso & Ferrari.
Was glad to see that stupid grin taken off Christian Horners face though when that happened
. Hoping that today is just the first of many wins for Alonso & Ferrari.
I haven't checked (perhaps someone can give accurate figures), but as I understand it, their budget is not as big as McLaren, Ferrari, Renault (or Honda/Toyota, before they left). By my understanding, budget-wise, they are not in the same category as the aforementioned teams.
2009 no idea how accurate
1. McLaren 270 mln euro
2. Ferrari 255 mln euro
3. Toyota 250 mln euro
4. BMW Sauber 210 mln euro
5. Renault 190 mln euro
6. Red Bull 120 mln euro
7. Brawn GP 95 mln euro
8. Williams 90 mln euro
9. Toro Rosso 70 mln euro
10. Force India 65 mln euro
SALARIES:
1. Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) 25 mln euro
2. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 24 mln euro
3. Fernando Alonso (Renault) 20 mln euro
4. Felipe Massa (Ferrari) 16 mln euro
5. Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber) 10 mln euro
6. Nick Heidfeld (BMW Sauber) 8 mln euro
7. Nico Rosberg (Williams) 7,5 mln euro
8. Jarno Trulli (Toyota) 7 mln euro
9. Heikki Kovalainen (McLaren) 6 mln euro
10. Jenson Button (Brawn GP) 5 mln euro
11. Rubens Barrichello (Brawn GP) 4,5 mln euro
12. Mark Webber (Red Bull) 4 mln euro
13. Timo Glock (Toyota) 3,5 mln euro
14. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) 3,5 mln euro
15. Giancarlo Fisichella (Force India) 2 mln euro
16. Sebastien Bourdais (Toro Rosso) 1,8 mln euro
17. Sebastien Buemi (Toro Rosso) 1,5 mln euro
18. Nelsinho Piquet Jr. (Renault) 1,5 mln euro
19. Kazuki Nakajima (Williams) 1,25 mln euro
20. Adrian Sutil (Force India) 1,25 mln euro
1. McLaren 270 mln euro
2. Ferrari 255 mln euro
3. Toyota 250 mln euro
4. BMW Sauber 210 mln euro
5. Renault 190 mln euro
6. Red Bull 120 mln euro
7. Brawn GP 95 mln euro
8. Williams 90 mln euro
9. Toro Rosso 70 mln euro
10. Force India 65 mln euro
SALARIES:
1. Lewis Hamilton (McLaren) 25 mln euro
2. Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari) 24 mln euro
3. Fernando Alonso (Renault) 20 mln euro
4. Felipe Massa (Ferrari) 16 mln euro
5. Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber) 10 mln euro
6. Nick Heidfeld (BMW Sauber) 8 mln euro
7. Nico Rosberg (Williams) 7,5 mln euro
8. Jarno Trulli (Toyota) 7 mln euro
9. Heikki Kovalainen (McLaren) 6 mln euro
10. Jenson Button (Brawn GP) 5 mln euro
11. Rubens Barrichello (Brawn GP) 4,5 mln euro
12. Mark Webber (Red Bull) 4 mln euro
13. Timo Glock (Toyota) 3,5 mln euro
14. Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull) 3,5 mln euro
15. Giancarlo Fisichella (Force India) 2 mln euro
16. Sebastien Bourdais (Toro Rosso) 1,8 mln euro
17. Sebastien Buemi (Toro Rosso) 1,5 mln euro
18. Nelsinho Piquet Jr. (Renault) 1,5 mln euro
19. Kazuki Nakajima (Williams) 1,25 mln euro
20. Adrian Sutil (Force India) 1,25 mln euro
Yeah me too.
When Alonso won his 1st title, I didn't really rate him highly. But after the Italian GP, when MS was about 2s faster than everybody else towards the end, but couldnt overtake Alonso, Alonso moved up in my estimation.
Also, when he moved to McLaren and was immediately on the pace and finished in joint 2nd place, despite all the nonsense going on behind the scenes, he moved up even higher in my estimation.
From mid 2006, I believe he was the best driver in F1 (including MS) and by right, I want to see the best drivers winning races and not languishing in the middle of the field.
Now that Alonso is in a Ferrari with outright No.1 status, there are no excuses and he should win this year's title.
I believe that Toyota's budget is higher - somewhere around 350M, though they may have scaled back towards the end of 2009.
The above does show that Red Bull fall in the bottom half of the table, when it comes to budgets.
Soldato
The 'hilarious' jabs at Coulthard whenever he talks about Red Bull are getting tiresome already!
wow, that a was perhaps the dullest "race" i have ever had the bad luck of watching.
The Fia have destroyed WRC and now have ruined F1, with their constant cost cutting rubbish.
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of technology not a sodding parade whilst watching the fuel gauge.
Back to watching motogp, where their is actual proper racing
The Fia have destroyed WRC and now have ruined F1, with their constant cost cutting rubbish.
F1 is supposed to be the pinnacle of technology not a sodding parade whilst watching the fuel gauge.
Back to watching motogp, where their is actual proper racing
Soldato
Most boring race ever, but I'm glad that Alonso won as per my prediction
Here's to two weeks time and a more thrilling race in Australia....
Here's to two weeks time and a more thrilling race in Australia....
Soldato
Brundle or Legard mentioned something about Alonso being the latest Ferrari driver to win their first GP for Ferrari, joining Mansell and Raikkonen. Anyone know who the other members of the "Won on Ferrari debut" club are?
I think Fangio was the other one he mentioned.
Soldato
I was expecting the cars to be much faster towards the end of the race. Were they really still doing nearly 2 minutes at the end?! 
Cheers. Missed the names.
fastest lap 1:58.287 by alonso.
Most only managed mid 1:59 and a fair few 2:00+
they really were slow. I'm interested to know if they were saving the tyres to much as we didn't see anyone with bad tyres which I was very surprised about. Or were those times down to bad tyres. Ride height probably made some of that differencing. But I think Brundle said no more than 0.2 seconds a lap.
Most only managed mid 1:59 and a fair few 2:00+
they really were slow. I'm interested to know if they were saving the tyres to much as we didn't see anyone with bad tyres which I was very surprised about. Or were those times down to bad tyres. Ride height probably made some of that differencing. But I think Brundle said no more than 0.2 seconds a lap.
Associate
Not an exciting race, and I see the FIA pushed the 'Ferrari Remote Assistance' button to hobble Red Bull 
James Allen is reporting that the teams are already thinking of voting for a mandatory second pitstop to mix things up. Obviously as it stands the soft tyre is used for qualifying, and then a single stop to change to hard tyres. This will need 100% agreement for all teams though.
James Allen is reporting that the teams are already thinking of voting for a mandatory second pitstop to mix things up. Obviously as it stands the soft tyre is used for qualifying, and then a single stop to change to hard tyres. This will need 100% agreement for all teams though.