Bahrain Grand Prix 2015, Sakhir - Race 4/19

And Hamilton and Rosberg hate eachother. Vet and Kimi are great friends and i could see that going towards the detriment of toto wolff... that particular scenario. Love to see his face if ferrari win the constructors... its the title that means 99 percent more to the team than the wdc afterall.

I don't see hate between Hamilton and Rosberg. I think the strength of their friendship has weathered the pressures of world class competition quite well, guided by good management. If you consider the incidents we had last season with Mercedes racing wheel to wheel, to actually come out of Spa without major repercussions was extraordinary.

I don't see how Vettel and Kimi's relationship affects Toto. Toto comes across as an extremely capable manager and has proven himself with some difficult scenarios. Arrivabene certainly seems to be of a similar ilk, but we've yet to see him under the spotlight.

I think Ferrari are the most harmonious team at the moment purely because they share 1 clear objective, dethrone Mercedes. Once we get to the grittier end of the season that might change.
 
Yes, right now everything's all roses at Ferrari because they are targeting second place whilst they build the team and car back to what it should be. If it comes to championships being at stake, then I expect things to get fraught.
 
Vettel and Kimi haven't competed yet, real competition changes most relationships. When Vettel costs Kimi a win, or vice versa, or when one takes a title away from the other one... then see if they are great friends. How were Hamilton/Rosberg when Hamilton first joined Merc? Thick as thieves.... how are they now?
 
Vettel and Kimi haven't competed yet, real competition changes most relationships. When Vettel costs Kimi a win, or vice versa, or when one takes a title away from the other one... then see if they are great friends. How were Hamilton/Rosberg when Hamilton first joined Merc? Thick as thieves.... how are they now?

Same with Vettel/Webber, Button/Rubens, Alonso/Hamilton. Friends until a championship is at stake.
 
Same with Vettel/Webber, Button/Rubens, Alonso/Hamilton. Friends until a championship is at stake.

Thing is, could anyone actually tell the difference if Kimi wasn't happy... he'd speak less? :p

Seriously though he's mentioned a better atmosphere, Arrivabene is talking about no team orders. You can be no.1 in a team and in contract but not get team orders. Getting things like newest wing first, test new parts and decide if you like them, maybe getting things as simple as preference on choice of media commitments(and with so many being cringe worthy piles of crap... being able to avoid some would be a pretty sweet deal).

There is constant talk about Alonso being a bit of a **** to work with, demanding and like everyone should be there for him rather than being part of the team. Kimi however signed up there knowing he'd be a no.2 to Alonso. I'm a little disappointed in that, it kind of feels like he went there for the money rather than believing he had a shot at beating Alonso... but I think that means he's likely happy to be a no.2 to Vettel anyway.


Finally some pics of the Honda engine from the weekend, really only two options being that there is no radial compressor at the front of the engine for certain. There is a rectangular box there which could be a axial compressor but for the pressure limit and single stage limit in the rules would be a very weird choice(heavier, more complex, less reliable) with no real advantages unless they had to have something rectangular.

Reality is it looks more like a oil tank or something, meaning while it may be a split turbo, the compressor is very likely to be in the V as Ferrari's was last year. Seems to have all the earmarks of last years Ferrari, under spec'd mgu-h, compressor in the v, issues getting sustained power, ers issues. Just compounded by over the top packaging and constant reliability problems. Ferrari fixed that by redesigning turbo, compressor and mgu-h entirely, bigger, moved position, changed the set up. Mclaren are trying to change the mgu-h entirely.
 
You two must know more then Merc\Hamilton as they said it was the front tire wheel nut problem that mad him lose 5 secs.

", but as Hamilton exited from his first stop, a slow 3.7sec after difficulty with a wheel nut, he found his mirrors filled with Rosberg and Vettel"

Keep up lads\gals please :)

So being stationary for an extra 1.2s caused him to lose 5s?

I'm not sure what universe you watched it from but the rules of physics there sound very interesting.
 
It should be very interesting once ferrari release their engine upgrade - especially as they have more tokens left that mercedes, so it seems unlikely mercedes will be able to rush through some upgrades to match ferrari...
 
Kimi looking absolutely ecstatic at coming second today :D

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:D
 
Will be interesting to see how much pace Hamilton has in the bag if/when the Ferrari's start getting close and pushing him.

They also seem to have a few upgrades coming, have Mercedes said much about upgrades?
 
Will be interesting to see how much pace Hamilton has in the bag if/when the Ferrari's start getting close and pushing him.

They also seem to have a few upgrades coming, have Mercedes said much about upgrades?

AFAIK, Mercedes do have upgrades coming too, but what they are I have no idea - they have fewer engine tokens available though.

I think they were probably hoping their new front wing (which looks mega) would have more of an impact than it has, or seems to have had..

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Another race missed and thus watched the highlights last night in bed... all 22 minutes of them.

I don't understand why he gets the blame for the undercuts? Isn't it is the team that call the shots on the pit stops?
 
So long as Mercedes can manage their tyres I think they will walk the championship this year, however Ferrari clearly have enough pace that they will make them pay for any tactical errors or reliability issues.

I did enjoy watching Vettel crack during this race, unless he gets a clean getaway he does tend to make a lot of errors when racing closely with other drivers.
 
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Will be interesting to see how much pace Hamilton has in the bag if/when the Ferrari's start getting close and pushing him.

They also seem to have a few upgrades coming, have Mercedes said much about upgrades?

Everyone has upgrades coming, that is just the way of the sport. The worry I have is that, 2013 was a big step for Merc, it didn't fix the tire wear issues although it did improve them, but it went from what 4-5th fastest car to pretty much fastest (before factoring in tires). 2014 saw a lot of work from 2013 in improving the chassis and fixing tire wear dramatically. If they had 2014 tire wear on that 2013 car they could have been very close or won the title that year as well.

Thing is this was all basically under Brawn's direction... with Paddy Lowe starting mid 2013(with 2014 car and it's direction being started before that) and with Brawn still in charge till the end of 2013.... I'd call everything up to this season a Brawn based car. The changes from that car forward are Paddy Lowe decisions and I'm not convinced particular from his Mclaren CV how good he is. Afaik the only new car you can really attribute to him as a technical director is.... the 2013 Mclaren.... which stunk the place out. Depending on when the work for the 2014 car started... that might also be considered a heavily Lowe influenced car... another stinker.

We'll see in the future, teams do this, they have good and bad periods. They've lost Brawn, IMHO a huge loss, they've lost their ERS and fuel expert to Ferrari. This is also common, a team does good and other people take note and start poaching the key personnel.
 
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