Bakers refuse Gay wedding cake - update: Supreme Court rules in favour of Bakers

Devlish · 19 May 2015 at 15:19

Good job on increasing homophobia! The bakery will have that fine paid for them so no loss to them.

kindai · 19 May 2015 at 15:22

I'm tempted to go order a cake with something massively offensive on it, maybe some neo-nazi slogans, and if they refuse then take them to court.

Otherwise, I get a cake to eat

Spacedeck · 19 May 2015 at 15:23

The Dread Pirate said:
So you're saying no business has a right to support a particular Political viewpoint or have a stance on something they feel strongly about and have to be impartial no matter what's going on in the world in which case I'd say pretty much all businesses are now open to litigation.

To me, beliefs as in religions shouldn't mix with business. If you are going to open a public business that anybody can use, then everyone should have the same rights, not be discriminated because of some religious beliefs that should be unrelated to the company itself.

RDM · 19 May 2015 at 15:23

The Dread Pirate said:
So you're saying no business has a right to support a particular Political viewpoint or have a stance on something they feel strongly about and have to be impartial no matter what's going on in the world in which case I'd say pretty much all businesses are now open to litigation.

The situation in Northern Ireland is different in that there is additional legislation making political discrimination illegal.

Individuals are allowed to discriminate, business aren't so no individual freedoms have been broken. The owners can dislike the idea of homosexual marriage as much as they like, they just cant refuse to do business because of it.

spudbynight · 19 May 2015 at 15:23

kindai said:
I'm tempted to go order a cake with something massively offensive on it, maybe some neo-nazi slogans, and if they refuse then take them to court.

Otherwise, I get a cake to eat

I think that would only work if you were homosexual.

spudbynight · 19 May 2015 at 15:24

RDM · 19 May 2015 at 15:24

Devlish said:
Good job on increasing homophobia! The bakery will have that fine paid for them so no loss to them.

How is it going to increase homophobia?

eatcustard · 19 May 2015 at 15:24

spudbynight said:
I think that would only work if you were homosexual.

What a about an ISIS one, can I order one of them?

Zethor · 19 May 2015 at 15:25

The bakery itself is not important, the overall message is more important: in a business environment, keep your religious views to yourself and treat your customers properly, as long as their requests are within the letter of the law.

eatcustard · 19 May 2015 at 15:26

Zethor said:
The bakery itself is not important, the overall message is more important: in a business environment, keep your religious views to yourself and treat your customers properly, as long as their requests are within the letter of the law.

If someone cam to me and said design an ISIS propaganda leaflet I would tell them to go **** themselves.

So would I get prosecuted?

StriderX · 19 May 2015 at 15:27

eatcustard said:
If someone cam to me and said design an ISIS propaganda leaflet I would tell them to go **** themselves.

So would I get prosecuted?

No? ISIS are a terrorist group and you would in fact be more likely prosecuted for not reporting to the police.

cheesyboy · 19 May 2015 at 15:27

eatcustard said:
If someone cam to me and said design an ISIS propaganda leaflet I would tell them to go **** themselves.

So would I get prosecuted?

Gays are probably at least a little bit different to ISIS, as a group.

spudbynight · 19 May 2015 at 15:29

Zethor said:
The bakery itself is not important, the overall message is more important: in a business environment, keep your religious views to yourself and treat your customers properly, as long as their requests are within the letter of the law.

So a gay bakery should be compelled to bake a cake with a slogan such as "Re-criminalise Homosexuality"?

The Dread Pirate · 19 May 2015 at 15:29

cheesyboy said:
Gays are probably at least a little bit different to ISIS, as a group.

Not so far as the russians are concerned.

ubersonic · 19 May 2015 at 15:30

cheesyboy said:
Gays are probably at least a little bit different to ISIS, as a group.

Not according to the Republican party or UKIP XD

Arthur Hucksake · 19 May 2015 at 15:33

I thought in a free market, any business can refuse custom to anyone without a real explanation?

eatcustard · 19 May 2015 at 15:40

StriderX said:
No? ISIS are a terrorist group and you would in fact be more likely prosecuted for not reporting to the police.

But they are still a religious group and we cant upset anyone's religion, even if its crazy.

Danthus · 19 May 2015 at 15:41

Zethor said:
The bakery itself is not important, the overall message is more important: in a business environment, keep your religious views to yourself and treat your customers properly, as long as their requests are within the letter of the law.

Well said.

spudbynight · 19 May 2015 at 15:41

eatcustard said:
But they are still a religious group and we cant upset anyone's religion, even if its crazy.

No, we can upset anyone's religion. We just can't upset the homosexuals.

This decision is a terribly illiberal act and a blow for freedom.

neil3k · 19 May 2015 at 15:47

Yes, poor gays they can't have their cake.

If the gentleman in question had any morals or sense of right wrong he would have just taken his order to another bakery rather than drag this ridiculous case through the courts costing countless taxpayer ££££££

Gay man gets his cake christian bakery doesn't get an order = justice served

Bakers refuse Gay wedding cake - update: Supreme Court rules in favour of Bakers

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