Bakers refuse Gay wedding cake - update: Supreme Court rules in favour of Bakers

D.P. · 19 May 2015 at 15:48

spudbynight said:
So a gay bakery should be compelled to bake a cake with a slogan such as "Re-criminalise Homosexuality"?

No, because that slogan would be inciting hatred, which is illegal.

However, a straight couple could go to a bakery specializing in a gay clientele and order a cake.

D.P. · 19 May 2015 at 15:49

Arthur Hucksake said:
I thought in a free market, any business can refuse custom to anyone without a real explanation?

They can, but they can't discriminate

233 · 19 May 2015 at 15:49

now what would have happened had the bakery refused to bake a cake with a slogan against gay marriage?

would they have been breaking the law then too?

Schlong&Stable · 19 May 2015 at 15:49

I plan to find a gay bakery and demand a "Kill all gays" cake be made for me. I won't eat it of course (aids) but it will be interesting to see what happens.

MooMoo444 · 19 May 2015 at 15:50

Guy should have gone with 2 buns instead of a cake.

spudbynight · 19 May 2015 at 15:50

D.P. said:
No, because that slogan would be inciting hatred, which is illegal.

However, a straight couple could go to a bakery specializing in a gay clientele and order a cake.

No it wouldn't be inciting hatred. It would be seeking to change the law.

A slogan such as "Burn all the gays" would be inciting hatred. Seeking to peacefully change the law, via democratic means, is not inciting hatred.

The very fact you think so shows how screwed up our society has become.

D.P. · 19 May 2015 at 15:50

neil3k said:
Yes, poor gays they can't have their cake.

If the gentleman in question had any morals or sense of right wrong he would have just taken his order to another bakery rather than drag this ridiculous case through the courts costing countless taxpayer ££££££

Gay man gets his cake christian bakery doesn't get an order = justice served

If the baker had any sense or moral or right form wrong he wouldn't have been a bigoted homophobic moron and served the customer in a decent manner!

D.P. · 19 May 2015 at 15:53

spudbynight said:
No it wouldn't be inciting hatred. It would be seeking to change the law.

A slogan such as "Burn all the gays" would be inciting hatred. Seeking to peacefully change the law, via democratic means, is not inciting hatred.

The very fact you think so shows how screwed up our society has become.

No, what you shouldn't was to make homosexuality a criminal act, which would be inciting hatred.

cheesyboy · 19 May 2015 at 15:53

Thompson_NCL said:
I plan to find a gay bakery and demand a "Kill all gays" cake be made for me. I won't eat it of course (aids) but it will be interesting to see what happens.

That would be you, the buyer, discriminating against gays, with an overtly discriminatory message request. Similar to if the gays had asked for a "kill all Christians" slogan.

I admit I did properly lol at your second sentence

Danthus · 19 May 2015 at 15:55

spudbynight said:
No, we can upset anyone's religion. We just can't upset the homosexuals.

This decision is a terribly illiberal act and a blow for freedom.

Whose freedom?

cheesyboy · 19 May 2015 at 15:57

OldCoals said:
Whose freedom?

The freedom to bigot. They want to take that away from us.

atpbx · 19 May 2015 at 16:05

Important lesson from the 80's to be learnt here.

Just say NO.

....................and then leave it at that.

Schlong&Stable · 19 May 2015 at 16:09

cheesyboy said:
That would be you, the buyer, discriminating against gays, with an overtly discriminatory message request. Similar to if the gays had asked for a "kill all Christians" slogan.

I admit I did properly lol at your second sentence

So if I order another cake saying 'kill all heterosexuals' I should be kosher?

TheLegendOfMart · 19 May 2015 at 16:15

spudbynight said:
No, we can upset anyone's religion. We just can't upset the homosexuals.

This decision is a terribly illiberal act and a blow for freedom.

Unfortunately we have these pesky little things called discrimination laws. If they are a company that serves the public they can't discriminate on grounds of gender, race, sexuality, etc..

If they had simply said no we can't we are too busy then nothing would have happened.

robgmun · 19 May 2015 at 16:17

What a disgrace this ruling is, step in the wrong direction and will just fuel homophobia, one set of rights shouldn't infringe on another, they could have (and did so) go to another bakers

TheLegendOfMart · 19 May 2015 at 16:19

robgmun said:
What a disgrace this ruling is, step in the wrong direction and will just fuel homophobia, one set of rights should infringe on another, they could have (and did so) go to another bakers

The law says otherwise, if Christians had gone into a gay bakers and asked for anti gay marriage cake then the outcome would have been the same.

StriderX · 19 May 2015 at 16:19

Well the bakers went too far and deserve the judgement today.

End of.

spudbynight · 19 May 2015 at 16:21

OldCoals said:
Whose freedom?

All of ours.

TheLegendOfMart said:
Unfortunately we have these pesky little things called discrimination laws. If they are a company that serves the public they can't discriminate on grounds of gender, race, sexuality, etc..

If they had simply said no we can't we are too busy then nothing would have happened.

grounds of gender, race, sexuality, etc....you missed out religion. Unfortunately most people do, it is considered open season.

robgmun said:
What a disgrace this ruling is, step in the wrong direction and will just fuel homophobia, one set of rights should infringe on another, they could have (and did so) go to another bakers

Indeed, we should stand up to homofascism.

ADT · 19 May 2015 at 16:21

lol wut

It's up to the business to serve what and who they want?

StriderX · 19 May 2015 at 16:22

Welp I'm out before this thread explodes with nasties.