Oh dear.
Bakers refuse Gay wedding cake - update: Supreme Court rules in favour of Bakers
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Oh dear.
Soldato
The problem with paedophilia is consent/abuse, not certain social beliefs.
Associate
They can't because that breaks anti discrimination law.
What about the people being intolerant about intolerance, and thus ending up doing the same sort of things they're moaning at other people for doing?
Permabanned
Forcing a bakery to make a gay cake against their wishes is not discrimination?
Caporegime
Yet another person missing the point. All people have the right to religious freedom. The argument is the fact that one right, sexuality, seems to have trumped this right.
Caporegime
Why oh dear? Gonna expand on that or just make a crap comment?
The thing I find interesting about this is that Northern Ireland doesn't recognise same-sex marriage and has no intention of doing so. The bakers actions in not wanting to support it are in line with the governments actions. Effectively the bakers have been found guilty of agreeing with the Northern Ireland Executive which surely creates a legal minefield.
For the record I fully support same-sex marriage and think its a disgrace that NI wants to continue with its backwards ways
For the record I fully support same-sex marriage and think its a disgrace that NI wants to continue with its backwards ways
Soldato
No it doesn't
The rights of homosexuals haven't forced the religious to contravene their religion. They are free to be as not-gay as they like.
So many people only say this because they don't want a lynch mob.
Caporegime
No. You're wrong. I'll state clearly again...it is legal but socially wrong for someone to have an attraction to kids.
It is illegal for them to act it out.
They can broadcast it all they want that they have this attraction. It wouldn't end well for them, but legally they can. Try and find a cake shop that would put that on a cake though and you can bet that they wouldn't end up in court if they refused.
Caporegime
Being not gay includes not writing messages condoning homosexuality I'm afraid.
Associate
Fallacious argument. Homophobes intolerance seek to remove or deny the civil rights of a protected class.
No it's not. They don't have the same rights as a private citizen, they opened a shop that serve the public, they CANNOT by LAW discriminate against people.
The act of paedophilia is ILLEGAL and NOT PROTECTED under anti discrimination laws, are you dense or just being contrary to cause arguments?
Soldato
It is a ****ing nonsense.
To be fair, there is some intention to allow it - just not by a large part of the Northern Ireland Assembly.
I wonder if the South's upcoming referendum on gay marriage will affect the North's position, should a Yes vote win.
There are no laws to protect people who have an attraction to children from being discriminated against because of their attraction.
/\/\ Can't believe I actually had to type that.
Soldato
Caporegime
There are. a person's sexuality is protected. You cannot discriminate on the grounds of sexuality
No it isn't. Not all people who are against gays, or gay marriage want to actually remove the rights of people. Some just dislike it and won't acknowledge that it's "real" marriage. There doesn't have to he a hate component.
Often there is, but that isn't a prerequisite. If I refuse to accept a man can become a woman via surgery, that means I reject "transgenderism", no? But I can refuse to accept that without wanting their rights to be taken way, no?
Additionally, I doubt they are actually fearful of gays.