BARGAIN - OcUK 24" with DVI (*VA Panel) for £179.99+VAT (This Week Only Deal!!)

tyranus said:
I wouldn't worry about it, if you are happy with your choice it shouldn't matter:)
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Well sure, but when you find out something much better for your needs is £100 more just after you've brought something else.. It's a bit annoying!

As i doubt i'l ever come across one i won't be able to see how much better they are, this 24" with good calibration will do me :) It's not like im working to a rediculously high colour correct standard.
 
unknownpain said:
Sorry the quality isn't that good but you can see it a bit.
This isn't normal ?
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Yup - if you've been going 10 days and it hasn't shown any signs of clearing up, best to RMA it. They should come and collect, and replace free of charge if you give them a ring and explain the problem. Or, even better (and cheaper) contact them through their webnote system, in the RMA section. Outline the problem and include the links to those pictures. :)
 
james.miller said:
ill just have to take your word for it. there couldnt possibly be anything wrong with your yuraka as they are all perfect lol
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While I appreciate the weak dig :p, I know when a product has a flaw. This is a non-defective panel... there's nothing wrong with it. With all due respect I have both the monitors in my house... you've never even seen one of them so all you have to go by is your experience with one of them... I don't mean that in any funny way, just stating fact. If I could bring it round to yer house to show you I would! :)

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oh incidentally, how would you rate the nec's performance against and lcd tv and such?
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In what respect? IQ wise it's miles ahead of my Tosh 26", and also in terms of responsiveness. Blacks on the NEC are also pure black... as close to CRT-like as you will ever see. It also has a VERY thorough user menu and the thing can be tweaked super-fine, to give fantastic clour while having no glare. It's like silk on the eyes.

Adrianr said:
A bit more? Aren't those NEC £600+ Screens? Unfortunately i couldn't pay 3 times more for a monitor :(

Edit: How do you rate them compared to Eizo/LaCie equivilents?
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No mine was £300... but then it's a 20.1" not a 24".

tyranus said:
As you can see, they don't cost the earth, I'm pretty tempted by this, even if it is a 20.1", I'd rather have quality over a bigger inferior screen.
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Yup... I don't regret buying this 24" as I had an itch that needed scratching and needed to see what they were like... but now I know the NEC is staying firmly put, i'll take the quality over the quantity any day of the week!
 
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richdog, from what you say, your NEC LCD is better than a top notch CRT Sony Monitor. I honestly dont believe this to be the case, however, its not impossible.

I have a Sony 19" CRT monitor (cost me £450, in 2002). I also have the DGM 24". The Sony has the edge on the DGM, but this is not surprising. However, I certainly wouldn't say there is a night and day difference.

From what you have said, one of the following is true:

1. Either your LCD is performing better than my CRT (acknowledged by most as being a technology that LCD simply cant match yet)
2. Your Yaraku monitor isnt performing in the same way that my DGM performs
3. You are lying.

I have no idea which is true.

I do acknowledge that the NEC GX2 is one of the best LCD monitors out there. The problem is that it is being compared with my CRT, which happens to be one of the best CRTs out there.
 
sunama... all you need ot know is that I would never lie on a computer forum. Seriously I mean come on... I have nothing to prove in any respect to anyone on the interweb. Nothing. Especially over something as stupid as a monitor. So please don't suggest that again, it'll get us nowhere. :)

I will say it again... there is NOTHING wrong with this Yuraku. Panel uniformity is good, clarity is good, it is to my eye and all intents and purposes performing as any VA panel should, and i've seen Dell 2407's in shops and they looked the same as this to be honest. The only fault I can see from a technical point of view is a single dead pixel right at the top... so small as to be un-noticeable in everyday use. It's also better than TN panels, that's for sure.

I never actually said anywhere that my NEC is better than a top-notch Sony CRT monitor. .. though if you gave me a choice I know i'd take the NEC any day of the week for obvious reasons. The NEC will NOT be as fast as a CRT... blacks will NOT be quite as a good... but I swear it's as damn close to my old Compaq 22" CRT as I have ever seen an LCD, enough to be a marginal difference, and i've seen a lot of LCD's. But please bear in mind that others have also said they prefer it to their old CRT's... make of that what you will. I definately prefer it to my old CRT by a long way.... an altogether more pleasant experience on the eyes.

Ok to anyone who is doubting me here I challenge you to this if you have the case... buy an NEC 20GX2, run it for a less than a week next to your VA to see what the hell i'm talking about, and then return it under the DSA.

I just don't think it's actually possible to appreciate how good the NEC is until you see it running. It IS in another league... and the ONLY monitor that can replicate it in terems of IQ is the MultiSync LCD2690UXi which uses a H-SIPS panel, and that is not as reponsive as the GX2 despite the outstanding IQ... and it also costs the same as Ethiopias GDP. The NEC 20GX2 is also the only monitor I have ever seen that has not dropped more than a gfew pounds in price at retailers since it was released 2 years ago... in fact the price has RISEN with some sellers. That should tell you something.

I wote a stonking review for this thing almost 2 years ago and everything I wrote still holds true today http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=6860006&postcount=43

Not to mention the original awesome review by Igors/DVL73 of WSG forums who was similarly amazed http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/nec_20wgx2.htm

If you guys lived close enough i'd get some cold beers ready and show you exactly what i'm talking about, I genuinely would. :)
 
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Richdog said:
While I appreciate the weak dig :p, I know when a product has a flaw. This is a non-defective panel... there's nothing wrong with it. With all due respect I have both the monitors in my house... you've never even seen one of them so all you have to go by is your experience with one of them... I don't mean that in any funny way, just stating fact. If I could bring it round to yer house to show you I would! :)
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i have seen one;)
 
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For how long? Properly setup? Gamed on it?:)

Your posts made it seem as if you've never seen one as you didn't seem to have any idea of the IQ...
 
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not long, in >that high street store i cant name< no less!. it was only when i saw the front bezel that i realized id had a play with one before. back then it was just an over priced tft in an over priced store but i still had a look. i couldnt possibly give you any meaningful analysis of the monitor from what i saw, but i can say i was impressed with it. i obviously didnt play any games lol
 
Richdog said:
Nothing like that extreme! I'd rather have the 20.1" AS-IPS screen by far even though it costs a bit more than the 24", this monitor is going back first thing Monday.
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Haha, yeah, I know - as I said, the price difference isn't that extreme. However, if the NEC 20WGX2 was to be 24" instead of 20.1", I'm sure the retail price would probably be in the region of £400 - £500 by the sound of it.
 
If the NED 20GX2 had a 24" version of the same panel I would probably pay £600 for it tommorrow... and that's the honest (and galling for my wallet) truth, however despite the demand NEC haven't seen fit to do it. However I do hear on ze grapevine that NEC are bringing out some gamer panels later this year based on S-IPS technology so I think i'll hold on till then. GPU's should be much beefier by then too to cope with the res. :)

I know it sounds like i'm being all melodramatic about this but i'm honestly not. The VA panel is not bad, and many people will be happy with it, i the same way that many people will be happy with any good value, good looking product. However now i've had a taste for the NEC, I just can't bear anything else. Sad, but true.
 
Hi Gibbo,

Could you please acknowledge whether or not you received my e-mail as requested to sort out my replacement? I had no reply and i cant find an imessage option on forum. The e-mail on my forum profile is also wrong but wont let me change to my gmail lol

If you didnt receive my last e-mail let me know and will try it again later when i finish work.

Thanks.
 
Has anyone found a good desk stand for this monitor? I'm looking for a height/tilt adjustable one.
Could also someone with a colorimeter (spyder2 etc.) post the RGB, contrast and brightness values? It would be useful for everyone here. I have the AU-M230UW01 - VO panel
 
Wmega said:
Has anyone found a good desk stand for this monitor? I'm looking for a height/tilt adjustable one.
Could also someone with a colorimeter (spyder2 etc.) post the RGB, contrast and brightness values? It would be useful for everyone here. I have the AU-M230UW01 - VO panel
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Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. Hardware calibration alters your GPUs LUT (Look up table - Not exclusively, some calibration pairs this with manual adjustments in the OSD settings). Also no 2 monitors are perfectly alike, so any settings posted would be rather useless. Better off just getting your own or borrowing someone elses!
 
I'll tell you what... despite my opinions on the IQ of this monitor vs the NEC it still looks more than passable... good even... Supreme Commander plays perfectly and looks gorgeous in this res!
 
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