Battlefield 3 RETAIL Performance Thread

Amidar · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:14

bhavv said:
^^

Wait until page file ruins your SSD and then say that.

Before posting rubbish try doing some reading on how ssd's work.

Steviep3488 · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:15

hi all. i have 6950 1gb and it struggles with bf3 on 1920 x 1080 high ultra settings.

Im looking into buying a new mobo (crossfire) and getting 6870s. how well do they peform on the final game?

CaptainFail! · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:18

Q6600 - 3.25GHz
4GB OCZ SLi DDR2 RAM - 902MHz
Nvidia GTX 280 - 685MHz core, 1425MHz shader, 1225MHz Memory
Samsung T220 - 1680x1050

So far during online play I seem to be averaging 38-45fps.

I'm got most things set to medium (terrain detail on high I think). I've switched motion blur off and no HBAO etc.

2xAA and 16xAF

I want a new card...

Amidar · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:21

elrasho said:
yes C:\ drive is my SSD but I've been told to move it to a mechanical drive (the first partition on the next drive) as the constant read/write will mess up my SSD.

Leave it on your ssd & don't listen to some of the rubbish people post around here.

Randomface74 · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:22

elrasho said:
yes C:\ drive is my SSD but I've been told to move it to a mechanical drive (the first partition on the next drive) as the constant read/write will mess up my SSD.

This true so far as SSDs lifespan is determined by the number of writes. When SSDs first came out, TRIM didn't work, so people moved their page file to reduce the number of writes.

Assuming your SSD is configured properly and TRIM works...

It's no longer a problem - so putting your pagefile on your mechanical drive is simply slowing your system down unnecessarily.

_Jimlad_ · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:23

elrasho said:
yes C:\ drive is my SSD but I've been told to move it to a mechanical drive (the first partition on the next drive) as the constant read/write will mess up my SSD.

leave it on the ssd. did u not read the posts above!

setter · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:26

I just kept it on my ssd as well, TRIM on and leave the system at the log on screen for a few hours a week to allow garbage collection to do its thing.

elrasho · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:26

billysielu said:
This true so far as SSDs lifespan is determined by the number of writes. When SSDs first came out, TRIM didn't work, so people moved their page file to reduce the number of writes.

Assuming your SSD is configured properly and TRIM works...

It's no longer a problem - so putting your pagefile on your mechanical drive is simply slowing your system down unnecessarily.

I have TRIM working

I checked it by typing that thing in CMD. What else do I need to configure? . I'll move it back to my C:\ drive but what size should I set it to? I have 4GB of ram. Or should I leave it to system managed?

Randomface74 · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:30

elrasho said:
I have TRIM working I checked it by typing that thing in CMD. I'll move it back to my C:\ drive but what size should I set it to? I have 4GB of ram. Or should I leave it to system managed?

You should leave it to system managed.

The option to set it to a fixed size is for mechanical drives where it's better to have a defragmented page file. Defragmentation is unnecessary for SSDs because there are no moving parts - you should actually have defragmentation turned off because it causes writes for absolutely no benefit.

elrasho · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:31

billysielu said:
You should leave it to system managed.

The option to set it to a fixed size is for mechanical drives where it's better to have a defragmented page file. Defragmentation is unnecessary for SSDs because there are no moving parts - you should actually have defragmentation turned off because it causes writes for absolutely no benefit.

Yes I disabled the defrag service and windows serach service (indexing) through services.msc. Should I turn off super fetch aswell?

Randomface74 · 30 Oct 2011 at 13:37

elrasho said:
Yes I disabled the defrag service and windows serach service (indexing) through services.msc. Should I turn off super fetch aswell?

I'm not completely sure - it seems there are arguments either way. I would run the Windows Performance Index and accept whatever Windows 7 decides.

When WPI runs, Windows 7 recognises the boot drive as an SSD and configures itself accordingly.

pgi947 · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:01

Managed to get all the old CAP's removed via safe mode, did a fresh install of 11.10 with CAP4, its now sitting like so with the preset of 'ultra'.

GPU1: 99%
GPU2: 98%
Memory: 2199MB
FPS: 90-115

Still get the stutter on mouse movement but I'll have a play later today to get rid of that, very very happy with my 6950's

hux · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:08

Don't ssd's have a bit extra memory allocated to level out any wear over time?

Steviep3488 · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:12

pgi947 said:
Managed to get all the old CAP's removed via safe mode, did a fresh install of 11.10 with CAP4, its now sitting like so with the preset of 'ultra'.

GPU1: 99%
GPU2: 98%
Memory: 2199MB
FPS: 90-115

Still get the stutter on mouse movement but I'll have a play later today to get rid of that, very very happy with my 6950's

I get that stutter on a single 6950 tried allsorts even dropping res so framerates are 75-100 and its still there. think its the game and how it interprets the mouse movements.

Guest2 · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:12

barnsta said:
Just rolled my drivers back to 285.38. much better performance.

Better than what?
What card do you have?
What was you fps like before?
What driver were you using before?

Broken Hope · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:27

hux said:
Don't ssd's have a bit extra memory allocated to level out any wear over time?

Yes, but seriously I honestly wish that it was never made public knowledge that SSDs had limited writes since everyone worries about it so much and yet nobody will run out of writes before they are upgrading the drive to a faster/larger capacity drive. You can write like 20GB a day to the things every single day, which almost nobody does and still get around 3-5 years out of it.

Vir · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:29

I'm gonna try the 285.38 as well, going crazy from all the stuttering.

pgi947 · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:33

Steviep3488 said:
I get that stutter on a single 6950 tried allsorts even dropping res so framerates are 75-100 and its still there. think its the game and how it interprets the mouse movements.

While I was on 11.09 CAP4, killing SSAO and dropping shadows helped, which is what I will try first, but I agree, it seems more of a bug with the game than drivers as NV users are getting something similar.

Randomface74 · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:44

I get crazy stuttering with V-Sync on - dunno if that's something people have considered or not.

StonedPenguin · 30 Oct 2011 at 14:49

billysielu said:
Can't really tell elrasho.

I would have thought you should have your page file on C: if that's your SSD.

I'm a bit confused about page file allocation, I recently edited mine to allow for if my 580 runs out of vram on BF3, Does this seem about right? (c; = ssd/boot drive)

cheers