Battlefield 4 Recommended Requirements - 3GB Vram

[eddyr]

Y'know what? Moments like those are rare.
I regret nothing

True, and of false alarms it was a beauty.

 

[Suarez7]

So that's why Titan is worth so much

It was actually Techreport who first noted it i believe.

It was but the PCPER article was very in depth and the one most people quoted when discussing the frame latency issue.

 

[LtMatt]

So that's why Titan is worth so much

Look at the stock 7970 providing excellent frame times though.

 

[spixelspixel]

Trust me those blue spikes will be very noticeable when you're playing and pcper say as much. The 4gb 680 has no spikes at all.



It was actually Techreport who first noted it i believe.

But..but... its 3840x2160 on ultra settings That's a lot of spixels and its only bf3 that the 2gb suffers any performance loss on. It still does better than the 7970 crossfire disaster and many people said they never noticed any problems.

 

[teppic]

Those spikes will almost certainly be because of VRAM. If there isn't enough video memory to cache all the data needed, the game will run - but now and then it will have to go to system RAM (or at worst, disk) to fetch data, causing this kind of blip.

 

[LtMatt]

But..but... its 3840x2160 on ultra settings That's a lot of spixels and its only bf3 that the 2gb suffers any performance loss on. It still does better than the 7970 crossfire disaster any many people said they never noticed any problems.

I know, i appreciate its high res but it makes the point that lack of vram can show up in more ways than one. This is how it could show itself in Battlefield 4.

The reason why it sometimes didn't get noticed with crossfire in battlefield 3 was if you used vsync it cured the problem completely. Something that pcper refused to acknowledge. Setting a fps limit would also achieve the same end. You try that on the 2gb 680, it won't cure the problem we see in this bench, it will only make it worse.

Those spikes will almost certainly be because of VRAM. If there isn't enough video memory to cache all the data needed, the game will run - but now and then it will have to go to system RAM (or at worst, disk) to fetch data, causing this kind of blip.

Well said, better than i said it. I forgot it would normally go to system ram first.

 

[Tonester0011]

It's also worth noting, you need 2 Titans worth of power to provide even somewhat playable gameplay what roughly translates into 3 680s lol.
So yeah, not really an issue, unless like we've said...you're planning on going Tri-SLI and multi monitor.

 

[LtMatt]

It's also worth noting, you need 2 Titans worth of power to provide even somewhat playable gameplay what roughly translates into 3 680s lol.
So yeah, not really an issue, unless like we've said...you're planning on going Tri-SLI and multi monitor.

It will be an issue if 2gb is exceeded though as predicted depending on settings and res used in bf4. Now you may need two cards to have the grunt required but im not sure you will need three to do it, at least at a reasonable res.

 

[Orangey]

I see you all took my plea for sanity to heart.

 

[Ian Evey]

Indeed. It seems fairly obvious to me that to run Ultra with X4AA at 1440/1600p you're going to need a 3gb card. Why else would 3gb be in the recommended requirements? Last year it was 2gb recommended requirements and generally that limit is not exceeded on single screen in Battlefield 3.

The limits have not been increased for no reason. Dice would not do that if there is no chance of more than 2gb being used.

This is the point though that many people dont seem to be getting, At those resolutions you wont get above 60fps with ANY single gpu card at max settings, so whats the point in using max settings on a 2gb or 3gb or even a 6gb card?

 

[Jerry64]

And the Saga continues how many pages this one going to get too

 

[Ripjaw]

Recommended graphics card: 7870/660
Recommended graphics memory: 3GB

Eh?

+1

Says it all really.

 

[Jono8]

They havent even got the name of the 660 correct.

What is a "GT 660"

 

[Tonester0011]

This is the point though that many people dont seem to be getting, At those resolutions you wont get above 60fps with ANY single gpu card at max settings, so whats the point in using max settings on a 2gb or 3gb or even a 6gb card?

^ This basically.
Been pointed out hundreds of times.

I've even bet Matt a free copy of the game if i'm wrong. (single card gives playable framerate but exceeds VRAM limit)

 

[LtMatt]

I've even bet Matt a free copy of the game if i'm wrong. (single card gives playable framerate but exceeds VRAM limit)

Probably need something like 3, 2GB cards to actually provide enough grunt to push the settings required to push over the VRAM wall whilst still maintaining playable FPS.

I'll buy you BF4 if that's not the case.

This is what you said.

As i said earlier i reckon two cards will be able to provide playable fps and exceed the 2gb limit.

Get ready to buy me a copy of Battlefield 4 Tone.

 

[badcompany]

Lol 660 recommended ??

 

[Ian Evey]

This is what you said.

As i said earlier i reckon two cards will be able to provide playable fps and exceed the 2gb limit.

Get ready to buy me a copy of Battlefield 4 Tone.

For the record is it 1 x 2gb card or 2 x 2gb cards the bet is on ?

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Battlefield 3's recommended specs were only 1gb though and usage definitely went way over that. So does that mean the same will happen with Bf4? One would think so.

One things for sure a vram requirement of 3gb would not be there if its not needed, depending on settings and resolution used.

So what you're saying is DICE got the recommended VRAM wrong for BF3 but if they say 3GB for BF4 then this must be right?

Maybe they realised they got it too low last time so are playing it safe and overestimating this time?

I seem to recall a similar argument around BF3 time saying any card with less VRAM than AMDs current card (2GB 6970) wouldn't be able to max it out. I wonder if any 580 owners managed it then? I seem to recall my 570 SLI doing OK.

 

[Ian Evey]

^ This basically.
Been pointed out hundreds of times.

I've even bet Matt a free copy of the game if i'm wrong. (single card gives playable framerate but exceeds VRAM limit)

That would be a safe bet to me

I bet you and Matt, that if both of us are wrong, I will buy a 9xxx or a 780 for myself

 

[LtMatt]

So what you're saying is DICE got the recommended VRAM wrong for BF3 but if they say 3GB for BF4 then this must be right?

Maybe they realised they got it too low last time so are playing it safe and overestimating this time?

I seem to recall a similar argument around BF3 time saying any card with less VRAM than AMDs current card (2GB 6970) wouldn't be able to max it out. I wonder if any 580 owners managed it then? I seem to recall my 570 SLI doing OK.

That post was based on what was being said/assumed prior to me writing that. I was joking anyway, i don't think you will need 4gb. But if the recommended specs say 3gb you can be sure you're going to need that above 1080p with everything maxed out.

That would be a safe bet to me

I bet you and Matt, that if both of us are wrong, I will buy a 9xxx or a 780 for myself

Probably need something like 3, 2GB cards to actually provide enough grunt to push the settings required to push over the VRAM wall whilst still maintaining playable FPS.

I'll buy you BF4 if that's not the case.

I'm extremely confident two cards will be able to provide playable fps and exceed the 2gb limit. As a result ill be expecting a spare copy of bf4 from Tone in due course.

Anyway as i originally said details may have to be lowered to stop vram usage going up. Its irrelevant whether its playable or not as that was not what i said in the op. It may well not be playable but that wasn't the point i was arguing.