BBC document on Covid (Health Service) and Racism

There is lots of divisiveness being pushed from the likes of the BBC and it has been going on for a long time, I mentioned it years ago when they renamed some programme called "American High School: Straight Outta Orangeburg" to "Segregated America: A School in the South" before airing it on the main channel very shortly after Trump was elected. There was no reason to change the name to what it became other than to push division and an us vs them mentality such as that what BLM is now doing.
 
The Running Man said:
Pretty sure during the bubonic plague the poor also suffered.

This wasn't racist it was just because they were most impacted as they couldn't flee, had to work etc...

You could argue any of these issues adversely impact socioeconomic groups differently.

Why certain races are over represented in these groups is an entirely different conversation.
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No it isn't, you've literally stated why it's being framed this way.
 
The Running Man said:
Its being framed a way due to political purposes.

You could equally do a show on poor white people, who out number the total bake population and therefore say we are also discriminating against them too surely?
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Yes of course you can, just dont make it because the minorities are making a show too.
 
I think it's kinda racist that as a straight white male NHS Nurse I'm not being offered one to one covid counseling unlike my BAME colleagues.

Yep , you read that right. Even though I was the only Nurse on my team to actually catch covid and suffer from it. Only the black Asian team members can get counseling because of the distress it's caused.

Cannot ******* WAIT to leave this country for Australia in September once and for all. I hate the NHS and regret every bit of blood and sweat have given to it over the last 8 years.
 
nitram100 said:
I think it's kinda racist that as a straight white male NHS Nurse I'm not being offered one to one covid counseling unlike my BAME colleagues.

Yep , you read that right. Even though I was the only Nurse on my team to actually catch covid and suffer from it. Only the black Asian team members can get counseling because of the distress it's caused.

Cannot ******* WAIT to leave this country for Australia in September once and for all. I hate the NHS and regret every bit of blood and sweat have given to it over the last 8 years.
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BYE!
 
The Running Man said:
Or how about this instead of making one show for each minority/majority group you just make 1 show about all of the poor people that way not discriminating against any of them?
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Who does that benefit? Why do you think they're separated in the first place?

nitram100 said:
I think it's kinda racist that as a straight white male NHS Nurse I'm not being offered one to one covid counseling unlike my BAME colleagues.

Yep , you read that right. Even though I was the only Nurse on my team to actually catch covid and suffer from it. Only the black Asian team members can get counseling because of the distress it's caused.

Cannot ******* WAIT to leave this country for Australia in September once and for all. I hate the NHS and regret every bit of blood and sweat have given to it over the last 8 years.
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Did you ask for some?
 
They have a Panarama programme called "Let's talk about race" coming up next week, the BBC have gone full Commy subversion.
 
mmj_uk said:
They have a Panarama programme called "Let's talk about race" coming up next week, the BBC have gone full Commy subversion.
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Be great to see them talk about crime rates, deaths in custody etc.

That moment you realise that 85% of deaths in custody are white British!

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Ah, The Running Man intent on getting another thread closed because he can't stick to topic and has to shoehorn in every single slight the white man has ever faced. What a dreamboat.
 
Given there has been a drive to try and increase vaccination within BAME groups doesn't that tell us that its possible that BAME groups (generally speaking) haven't taken Covid as seriously as they perhaps should have? Combine that with multiple generation households, increased levels of obesity and health generally, lower income, likelihood of living in cities etc. It all plays a part.

But no just racism apparently.
 
Zatoichi.uK said:
Given there has been a drive to try and increase vaccination within BAME groups doesn't that tell us that its possible that BAME groups (generally speaking) haven't taken Covid as seriously as they perhaps should have? Combine that with multiple generation households, increased levels of obesity and health generally, lower income, likelihood of living in cities etc. It all plays a part.

But no just racism apparently.
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I think this is the biggest factor in that predominantly speaking the living arrangements of many BAME families are set up such that you may have in some cases 4 generations of a family in a single household, and combined with the same for other BAME families in what are often very condensed areas, so it makes logical sense that CoVid will spread easier. I have also heard in general that many BAME people are refusing to accept the vaccine when offered, but how true this is I am not sure.
 
2004typer said:
I have also heard in general that many BAME people are refusing to accept the vaccine when offered, but how true this is I am not sure.
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Its real. I saw even NHS staff refusing to take it in Leicester, yes Leicester that city which has been in a bad covid situation for many months.... I wonder why?.

'The analysis found 70.9% of white staff at the University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust had received the jab, compared with 58.5% of South Asian staff and 36.8% of black staff.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-56069325
 
It would be genuine interesting if they considered all emergent factors rather than lazily pointing to race at every turn - a tactic which will turn rotten quickly.

For instance there are now several studies which link blood type and vit d deficiency to Covid death rates.

Also although many of these communities are in the minority here - globally they are certainly not; are these ethnicities experiencing higher death rates here than elsewhere?
 
Why would BAME families live in Uk any different to their own native country? One would argue they are financially better in UK so why within the BAME group the covid death rate within BAME population is so high?

cultural habit can only explain part of the covid issues. Yes there will be more covid cases as they tend to live in inter-generational house holds. Yes they might not adhere to the covid guidances as much. Btw none of these notions have any evidence. But why BAME people die at a 5times higher mortality rate than Caucasians where there is no genetic differences between the two groups of people that offer one group more protection that the other.

plus the litmus test is that BAME people in their native countries aren’t dying at anywhere near the same % of death rate.

I think you lot trying to justify this issue on BAME’s culture or what else is just non-sense. During first lock down, I saw far greater number of Caucasian population in parks in groups socialising than any BAME group. I saw far greater number of Caucasian Middle Aged women not wearing masks in shops, supermarkets, post offices that any other group of people. This argument that BAME are dying more mist because their behaviour is crazy notion. There is no evidence to back that up
 
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mburn_83 said:
It would be genuine interesting if they considered all emergent factors rather than lazily pointing to race at every turn - a tactic which will turn rotten quickly.

For instance there are now several studies which link blood type and vit d deficiency to Covid death rates.

Also although many of these communities are in the minority here - globally they are certainly not; are these ethnicities experiencing higher death rates here than elsewhere?
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I agree with you on this. I watched the programme with what I would like to think is a more open mind than some on here but I think it didn't really answer the question.

What it demonstrated with data is that
  • if you are poor and lived in an urban environment then you were more likely to die from Covid. Agree with that.
  • People of colour are more likely to be poor ergo the death rates are higher. Agree with that.
  • Also People of colour are more likely to do NHS and other front line jobs, ergo again the death rates are higher. Agree with that
However what I think it should have looked at is whether white people of the same income and geographic demographics reflected the same higher rates of Covid and deaths. This is your control group if you like. If the rates are the same then you show that it is not people of colour in of themselves who are reflecting higher rates of Covid. Rather it is a society that puts people of colour into harms way through suppressing incomes and therefore access to healthcare/better health outcomes.

If the control group shows a differing levels of Covid/Deaths then you have a different discussion. Is it then something within those communities or the way in which the health service is treating them.
 
pc-guy said:
plus the litmus test is that BAME people in their native countries aren’t dying at anywhere near the same % of death rate.
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Black people in the UK are fat on the the whole, nearly 75% are obese or overweight and this is a significant factor in a severe outcome from Covid. Their native countries also tend to have significantly lower median ages. In other words there are lot of fat and older black people in the UK and that is a recipe for high risk.
 
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