BBC possibly to drop F1 coverage...

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As I said in my post it says "DVB-T Free in Germany, DVB-S Free-to-air on Astra 19.2°E HD is confirmed" so I will take the free as free

We won't know till the first race and if I have got it wrong I will apologize.
 
Skeeter said:
The other option isn't to not watch it at all, its to watch 10 races live and the rest as highlights on the BBC.

Watching half the races as HD highlights sounds like a much better option to me than all the effort you need to go to to get an advert filled German SD RTL feed setup.
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Can't say another launguage would bother me, I've watched old races with non-English commentary before and I didn't feel it removed too much from the show.
I put up with adverts throughout ITV's showing, it was infinitely better than not watching it live.

This is the problem people have, the other option is to just lose half the fun and there's not much alternative.
If I'm not watching a race live, then there's little reason to watch it at all. It's already happened, the outcome has already been decided.
You say it like it's a simple option, just don't watch half the season live... It isn't.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
Can't say another launguage would bother me, I've watched old races with non-English commentary before and I didn't feel it removed too much from the show.
I put up with adverts throughout ITV's showing, it was infinitely better than not watching it live.

This is the problem people have, the other option is to just lose half the fun and there's not much alternative.
If I'm not watching a race live, then there's little reason to watch it at all. It's already happened, the outcome has already been decided.
You say it like it's a simple option, just don't watch half the season live... It isn't.
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Think Im gonna go down the road of just stop watching it religiously and just pick up races live here or there that actually mean something outside of the championship (Monaco, Silverstone etc...)

Ive already cancelled plans of going to see any of the races, kinda pointless spending all that money on a series you cant follow...

Just frees up my Sundays to shoot arrows instead :)

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Skeeter said:
Thats a bit dramatic isn't it? Its not like F1 has suddenly gone underground and you need a secret handshake to be allowed in.
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It has become more difficult to follow though. I certainly wouldn't be spending so much cash to go and watch a series who couldn't give a **** if a country's fans watch or not.
If you can't see all the races live, then I guess it does make it easier to decide to give some of the "boring" ones a miss.
 
Skeeter said:
Thats a bit dramatic isn't it? Its not like F1 has suddenly gone underground and you need a secret handshake to be allowed in.
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Why waste money on something I cant follow? Sorry Im not going to pay plane tickets, hotels etc to enhance I sport I dont follow...

Skeeter, I know you are the Sky mascot, but it would be nice if you actually stopped questioning everyones motives that dont follow your own, its quite droll; its not a knee-jerk reaction as I said the same when this was all announced and so had many months to make these changes...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
Why waste money on something I cant follow? Sorry Im not going to pay plane tickets, hotels etc to enhance I sport I dont follow...

Skeeter, I know you are the Sky mascot, but it would be nice if you actually stopped questioning everyones motives that dont follow your own, its quite droll; its not a knee-jerk reaction as I said the same when this was all announced and so had many months to make these changes...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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It may not be a knee jerk reaction but it.certainly is an overreaction IMO. You don't hear about football supporters suddenly stop supporting their team if they can't have sky? Ultimately it's your choice but it seems a bit excessive.
 
It seems a bit excessive to not spend massive amounts of money on a sport that you can't follow? :confused:

It's not like he's stopping watching altogether, just stopping watching religiously.
Not something I'd really want to do, but I understand the appeal.

Football is pretty much guaranteed to be on in the pubs, it's a completely different thing.
F1 usually isn't on at a time you could nip down to the pub to watch, and it almost certainly would not be shown in any of them around where I stay, not if football is on.
 
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MissChief said:
It may not be a knee jerk reaction but it.certainly is an overreaction IMO.
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This.

I am not pleased that following F1 is going to cost me £30 a month. But I'm not going to over react by slagging off Sky all over the place, cancelling tickets to watch races and deem the sport impossible to follow so wash my hands of it.

Just strikes me as a bit of an immature overreaction.
 
Emlyn_Dewar said:
It has become more difficult to follow though. I certainly wouldn't be spending so much cash to go and watch a series who couldn't give a **** if a country's fans watch or not.
If you can't see all the races live, then I guess it does make it easier to decide to give some of the "boring" ones a miss.
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Unfortunately most of the the "boring ones" seem to be what the BBC are left with. Apart from the "flagship" races (Monaco, Silverstone, Spa last race of the year), they're stuck with Valencia, Barcelona, China, Korea...

To try and justify the cost to myself, I worked out the cost of the annual Sky subscription is still less than the cost of going to Silverstone for the weekend to see the British GP meeting.
 
Skeeter said:
This.

I am not pleased that following F1 is going to cost me £30 a month. But I'm not going to over react by slagging off Sky all over the place, cancelling tickets to watch races and deem the sport impossible to follow so wash my hands of it.

Just strikes me as a bit of an immature overreaction.
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You're putting words in people's mouths.
Nobody has deemed it impossible, it's just more difficult. The cost IS excessive for non Sky customers.
I'm not slagging Sky off, I just don't want to move from Virgin Media to a more costly Sky package. Haven't seen too many others slagging them off either...

It's perfectly understandable to cancel the idea of going to an actual race event because the series is more difficult to follow.
 
I'm failing to see where it states "impossible" there.

There'll be plenty of races I'll miss live as I won't be able to nip round someones house who has Sky, purely due to the time the races are on. For me, if you're not watching the race live, what is the point?
If I go from that approach, I can't really follow the sport.
 
MissChief said:
It may not be a knee jerk reaction but it.certainly is an overreaction IMO. You don't hear about football supporters suddenly stop supporting their team if they can't have sky? Ultimately it's your choice but it seems a bit excessive.
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Im confused, I didnt say I would stop supporting my drivers, but Im not going to spend a large sum of money going to a race where I havent been actively following the season and so its context...

Just like the millions of Man Utd fans who never been to one of their games. At least attempt to make an adequate comparison...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
Seriously, your taking this argument down to the level of the exact words used?

ps3ud0 said:
Why waste money on something I cant follow? Sorry Im not going to pay plane tickets, hotels etc to enhance I sport I dont follow...
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To me, that comment clearly indicated that ps3ud0 felt that he won't be able to follow F1, and therefore wont be following F1.

If thats not what he meant, thats hardly my fault is it? Miss Cheif clearly got the same impression.
 
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Skeeter said:
This.

I am not pleased that following F1 is going to cost me £30 a month. But I'm not going to over react by slagging off Sky all over the place, cancelling tickets to watch races and deem the sport impossible to follow so wash my hands of it.

Just strikes me as a bit of an immature overreaction.
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timbob said:
To try and justify the cost to myself, I worked out the cost of the annual Sky subscription is still less than the cost of going to Silverstone for the weekend to see the British GP meeting.
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This - is seems contradictory that I can fork out something like a grand to go to Singapore to see the F1, yet I refuse to pay Sky/VM to watch F1

On that basis the decision is quite simple and you must be dull not to see that. Unlike a lot of you guys Im not that excited when practise sessions are televised, I watch the race and the F1 Forum and thats pretty much it when it comes to a race weekend...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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So let me get this straight, you are cancelling your plans to go to Singapore and watch the F1 race because you will only be able to watch half of the races live on TV?
 
Skeeter said:
So let me get this straight, you are cancelling your plans to go to Singapore and watch the F1 race because you will only be able to watch half of the races live on TV?
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Makes sense to me.
Don't see how it is difficult to understand his viewpoint.

Does not want to spend cash for Sky Sports sub. Therefore cost to actually go to an event seems way excessive.
 
Skeeter said:
So let me get this straight, you are cancelling your plans to go to Singapore and watch the F1 race because you will only be able to watch half of the races live on TV?
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Wow you are dull; Ive decided that I dont want to afford to pay for Sky just to watch F1, so on that basis spending money to go to Singapore to see F1 seems stupid.

Skeeter, I always thought people got the wrong end of the stick with you, but have to admit I now see where they are coming from. The need to doggedly question repeatedly isnt a great trait...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
The thing is, not wanting to spend the money on Sky is a perfectly fine reason on its own.

There is no reason to then back that stance up with wild claims that the sport will fail, or the channel will fail, or that it will become difficult or impossible to follow, or any of the other reasons that people (here, and everywhere else across the internet) are throwing around.

"I don't want to pay for live F1, so I'm not going to pay for it" is perfectly fine.

If you look, I have never questioned any peoples desire to pay or not pay for Sky, I have just questioned the additional unnessasary reasons people have created to justify there position. Its not a position that needs justifying.
 
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