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BBC Vs Sky - Who was best?
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What about the Sky coverage did you not like?
Neither.
I'm of the feeling that BBC provides far better pre-race/post-race coverage as the team of JH/EJ/DC are brilliant and bring a lot of fun into it.
Sky is far better during the race because of their commentary team, but their other coverage is often quite boring. Post-Race goes on so long I often find myself turning off before its even finished, something I never do/did with the BBC F1 Forum. I'm also not a fan of the cutting away to the studio to look at the silly myPad, I much prefer BBCs approach of them just watching it back on a small portable monitor while showing us at home the fullscreen. I think Simon Lazenby has still got a way to go yet as anchor, his introduction of Mario Andretti was pure comedy. As much as I liked Damon Hill when he was driving, he's just too boring as a pundit. Sky has brought in more ways of doing things, such as the iPad app, which I thought was great until I realised that its delayed by a good 8+ seconds, so its useless as a race companion.
Personally if I was at home watching the race on my own when BBC also had the race, I'd often tend to have Sky on the TV and BBC on the laptop Pre/Post Race so I could flick between the two.
It will be interesting to see who BBC replace Jake with, whether they promote Lee McKenzie up, or whether they bring in somebody else, but I think given BBC budget constraints and lack of new talent, she is probably the only real option.
I'm of the feeling that BBC provides far better pre-race/post-race coverage as the team of JH/EJ/DC are brilliant and bring a lot of fun into it.
Sky is far better during the race because of their commentary team, but their other coverage is often quite boring. Post-Race goes on so long I often find myself turning off before its even finished, something I never do/did with the BBC F1 Forum. I'm also not a fan of the cutting away to the studio to look at the silly myPad, I much prefer BBCs approach of them just watching it back on a small portable monitor while showing us at home the fullscreen. I think Simon Lazenby has still got a way to go yet as anchor, his introduction of Mario Andretti was pure comedy. As much as I liked Damon Hill when he was driving, he's just too boring as a pundit. Sky has brought in more ways of doing things, such as the iPad app, which I thought was great until I realised that its delayed by a good 8+ seconds, so its useless as a race companion.
Personally if I was at home watching the race on my own when BBC also had the race, I'd often tend to have Sky on the TV and BBC on the laptop Pre/Post Race so I could flick between the two.
It will be interesting to see who BBC replace Jake with, whether they promote Lee McKenzie up, or whether they bring in somebody else, but I think given BBC budget constraints and lack of new talent, she is probably the only real option.
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He's off to present football on a new BT channel. Also his wife is expecting their first child so I suspect flying all over the world every fortnight wasn't on the cards. I think BT are paying a lot more too!
I think BBC in 2011 > *
Sky needs some presenters with personality but I do think the BBC is weaker without MB and of course, not having all of the races live!
The biggest let down with Sky was that they were supposed to be really technical with amazing analysis like we see in their football coverage, but for all their glitz and graphics with the Sky Pad the actual content wasn't all that.
Gary Anderson did a piece at one race this season (might have been on the forum) where he sketched something on a pad of paper — it wasn't polished but the content was there.
Probably the only standout thing Sky did was the Alonso/Vettel pass at Monza where they extracted a 3D view from both 2011 and 2012 to show why Vettel deserved the penalty in 2012 but Alonso got away with it in 2011.
The big criticism for the BBC was that they were too 'Top Gear' like, but Sky did plenty of the same kind of skits and they were rubbish in comparison.
If they had spent the energy they used on the jokey stuff on proper analysis they probably would have won me over a bit more.
Sky needs some presenters with personality but I do think the BBC is weaker without MB and of course, not having all of the races live!
The biggest let down with Sky was that they were supposed to be really technical with amazing analysis like we see in their football coverage, but for all their glitz and graphics with the Sky Pad the actual content wasn't all that.
Gary Anderson did a piece at one race this season (might have been on the forum) where he sketched something on a pad of paper — it wasn't polished but the content was there.
Probably the only standout thing Sky did was the Alonso/Vettel pass at Monza where they extracted a 3D view from both 2011 and 2012 to show why Vettel deserved the penalty in 2012 but Alonso got away with it in 2011.
The big criticism for the BBC was that they were too 'Top Gear' like, but Sky did plenty of the same kind of skits and they were rubbish in comparison.
If they had spent the energy they used on the jokey stuff on proper analysis they probably would have won me over a bit more.
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For commentary, Sky has it, but mostly cuz they took the team from the beeb, brundle, crofty, davidson and ted, have a good banter between them, and that makes them strong, same can be said for pinkham. What ruins it for sky, is the rest of the team, and that's where the beeb shines, Jake/DC/EJ & Lee, it was a bad move that they split and the beeb's coverage suffered because of it.
As for Anderson, his input is good, needs polishing, but really, he's not a presenter at all, and it shows..
As for Anderson, his input is good, needs polishing, but really, he's not a presenter at all, and it shows..
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The only thing the Beeb really lacked this seaon was Brundle. I warmed to Anderson as the season progressed and always thought Ben Edwards was more than tolerable. The Three Amigo's were a class act, and I can only imagine what it will be like next year. 
I did see the US GP on Sky (via magic) and really didn't know to make of it. Brundle gives it an air of credibility, but the rest felt 'commercial' and almost reminded me of the ITV days, especially the seperate studio and Mark Blundell... For once though I'm not totally mired in my usual 'I hate Sky dogma', but perhaps I'm just an old stick in the mud that thinks F1=BBC. Their way suits me nicely.
Apparently a Mr. J. Legard has submitted an application.
I did see the US GP on Sky (via magic) and really didn't know to make of it. Brundle gives it an air of credibility, but the rest felt 'commercial' and almost reminded me of the ITV days, especially the seperate studio and Mark Blundell... For once though I'm not totally mired in my usual 'I hate Sky dogma', but perhaps I'm just an old stick in the mud that thinks F1=BBC. Their way suits me nicely.
Apparently a Mr. J. Legard has submitted an application.
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I'd be flabbergasted if it's not Lee McKenzie. She isn't Jake Humphrey, but then Sky tried to out-Humphrey Humphrey, and they came off horribly worse with Mr Simon Slimey. You won't get better than Humphrey at that role - he was unique - there's no point in trying to replicate it.
Lee McKenzie's done a cracking job at filling in (thrown in at deep end (pardon the pun) with the paper-boat competition at Suzuka in 2010) and deserves her shot. She's got a history in motorsport, already has a rapport with many drivers (shame Schumacher's gone... he seemed to have a soft spot for her) and must know DC & Eddie extremely well by now... the only problem will be that people will be expecting Jake, but that's not how it works.
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Suzi Perry tipped to replace Jake Humphrey.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/186727/1/suzi_perry_tipped_to_replace_jake_humphrey.html
Are BBC trying to make F1 boring? Heck, I'd prefer if they got Eddie Irvine to do it instead.
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/186727/1/suzi_perry_tipped_to_replace_jake_humphrey.html
Are BBC trying to make F1 boring? Heck, I'd prefer if they got Eddie Irvine to do it instead.
That isn't commentary though. Any way I thought it was Eddie who predicted Hamilton leaving.
For me it has to be Sky. Full coverage of all sessions in HD and in a way that could be recorded. Plus complete coverage of GP2 and and all but the practice session for GP3.
I felt both were pretty bad this year. Best bits of both divided up between them and forced to have a lot of dross on both sides.
Gary Anderson was the real shining light of the BBC though, really felt he was interesting and added something special to the BBC coverage. On the downside I now HATE Ben Edwards with a real passion. Hateful commentator with no idea of what he should be doing, only Legard was worse. Made the James Allen/Algursaurie combo look amazing.
On the Sky side I really liked Herbert as a pundit, he was great fun. Having Brundle back in his proper role was nice, but ruined as Crofty (as much as he is a nice 5 live bloke) isnt the tv commentator F1 needs. Ted was his usual great self and Ant gave it a push for why he should be involved in F1 tv more. Everyone else just seemed in the way with too much time to kill.
BBC need to get more serious, less time mucking about with how stupid Eddie is, more time being interesting.
Sky need to reduce the amount of time they sit about talking about nothing and get rid of Hill, worlds most boring man on tv. Also need to reduce the very awkward sponsorship events they have to put on tv, as much as F1 things that's how to make money, its just a viewing tragedy.
Shame as both have given it a good crack and neither really got the formula right...
Gary Anderson was the real shining light of the BBC though, really felt he was interesting and added something special to the BBC coverage. On the downside I now HATE Ben Edwards with a real passion. Hateful commentator with no idea of what he should be doing, only Legard was worse. Made the James Allen/Algursaurie combo look amazing.
On the Sky side I really liked Herbert as a pundit, he was great fun. Having Brundle back in his proper role was nice, but ruined as Crofty (as much as he is a nice 5 live bloke) isnt the tv commentator F1 needs. Ted was his usual great self and Ant gave it a push for why he should be involved in F1 tv more. Everyone else just seemed in the way with too much time to kill.
BBC need to get more serious, less time mucking about with how stupid Eddie is, more time being interesting.
Sky need to reduce the amount of time they sit about talking about nothing and get rid of Hill, worlds most boring man on tv. Also need to reduce the very awkward sponsorship events they have to put on tv, as much as F1 things that's how to make money, its just a viewing tragedy.
Shame as both have given it a good crack and neither really got the formula right...
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The BBC have been covering F1 since before Sky existed.
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BBC for build up coverage.
Sky for race and grid walk.
BBC for post race analysis.
Sky for race and grid walk.
BBC for post race analysis.
I was puzzled by that comment as well, I could only assume he meant Sky broadcasting in other countries like Germany and Italy. Depends how long they have had it?
In any case, nobodies been doing it longer than the BBC as far as I know?