Belgian Grand Prix 2014, Spa-Francorchamps - Race 12/19

I'm just surprised by the FIA's take on the incident. Call me old fashioned but if you literally overtake someone by causing an accident with them, then it's not a racing incident. I can't believe it didn't even warrant a "will be investigated" notification.

If you allow drivers to benefit from causing collisions, they will try to take advantage of this situation. That's the nature of motor racing, and Rosberg benefited to the tune of 25 points in the championship battle, which is more points than most championships are decided on.
 
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F1 show discussing alonso future. Murray staying he should stay at Ferrari. I totally disagree, I really wish he would trade seats with Vettel.
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would be amazing. Or at least take a risk with mclaren and Honda tie up, who must have been doing tons of stuff in the last year. they're further along the restructure than Ferrari. I can't see Ferrari doing anything for a couple of seasons.
 
McLaren aren't suddenly going to be up at the front, no matter how good the Honda engine is. This season they're constantly being beaten by non-Mercedes cars. Without checking, I get the impression they'd be mired in the nether regions of the championship if it wasn't for the chaos of Melbourne.

Red Bull at least have a good car, and will for the foreseeable future (with or without Newey). It'll be easier to make the Renault engine more powerful than it will gift the McLaren aerodynamic prowess.

Renault will have learnt a lot from this year - McLaren have stayed where they were last year despite gaining a huge power advantage over those around them, so in reality they've gone backwards.
 
But lets be honest there's no seats at rbr.
Which leaves McLaren or Ferrari. Off those McLaren have a far bigger chance. Especially with Honda coming back in who do a lot of research behind the scenes that will directly benefit McLaren, as well as McLaren being further ahead with restructuring compared to Ferrari.
 
Why on earth do Mclaren have a far bigger chance, the Ferrari is better than the Mclaren this year, with a worse engine, the Ferrari engine will improve, the Honda MIGHT improve over the Merc, it MIGHT be worse, their aero isn't likely to be drastically better than Ferrari's all of a sudden.

Ferrari have a far bigger chance of beating Mclaren than the other way around, there is a exceptional slim chance that Honda make a brilliant and reliable engine in their first year and even then Mclaren will have to leapfrog most teams in aero to be competitive.

You also ignored Williams, with a great engine, decent aero and improvements, without major regulation changes there is little reason for them to drop off significantly. Their upgrades are working, the team has an idea what it's doing, they'll have a better idea of getting more out of the engine next year. Which cars without some significant change(change in engine, drastic reduction in funding, losing a top driver and only getting awful ones) have been great in the first year of new regulations but terrible in the second?

Williams might move back relative to say RBR if the Renault improves significantly and the Merc doesn't, it might move backwards relative to the Ferrari for the same reason, though there isn't a massive reason to believe the Ferrari/Renault will gain more than Merc from engine improvements.

Either way Williams are improving more than most as this year goes on, which is a good sign they understand the car and how to improve it, which bodes well for next year IMHO. The converse of this is Mclaren don't seem to be improving, haven't for two years, the guys in charge seem to have little understand of why the car does/doesn't work and as such don't seem to be improving it an awful lot, which doesn't bode well for next year. Not least because with a different engine, which could be much hotter, or whatever, effectively a lot of packaging things will change and some major aero things may have to change, they are starting from scratch and have been the worst(by a huge margin when you consider budget vs success) team in understanding and getting the best out of a new car. None of that bodes well for getting everything perfect for next year.

The biggest advantage available in the first season is the Merc engine, switching to a non Merc engine car is a big risk.
 
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Ferrari haven't produced for years and no signs of them producing anything for several more years.

Williams have improved, but they still aren't a front runner and probably won't be.

Rbr will improve but they wills tick with same drivers.

Mclaren is the unknown, everyone kowns how much money Honda spend and research f1, they can copy engine designs, they have wind tunnels etc and as they aren't an f1 team can by pass tunnel testing etc.
On top of that mclaren started their restructure earlier than Ferrari. So if Alonso moves, mclaren really is his only option.
 
That's more than wishfull thinking. There's zero chance vet moving to Ferrari. Why would he. He's in the second best car this year. He's also no where near retirement. There's plenty of time to get a ferrari drive. Either when they get better or towards the end of his career.
 
With £17m to his name he's short of a bob or two, he's much more interested in winning than money atm, as can be seen by his love of beating the stats book.
And was it 2011 when Mclaren started with fastest car, but couldn't put a wheel on and numerous other issues.
 
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