bet365 boss pays herself £265 MILLION
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How so?
Sugar tax, Tories.
Betting limit, Tories.
Child tax limit, Tories.
Plastic taxes, Tories.
Diesel limits, Tories.
I could search for more votes where they supported largely authoritarian measures, like the smoking ban. (most of them didn't bother btw)
Erm, they're not banning sugar or betting or smoking though - they're regulating and/or taxing those things.
There isn't a smoking ban, people are free to smoke they just aren't supposed to subject others to it indoors in a workplace, ergo where people work you'll have to go outside in order to smoke.
There isn't a smoking ban, people are free to smoke they just aren't supposed to subject others to it indoors in a workplace, ergo where people work you'll have to go outside in order to smoke.
Yet that is authority telling you what to do and not do, this isn't rocket science.
If this particular party truly cared about libertarianism it wouldn't ban or tax anything, not that i need to remind anyone, but we don't live in a non-authoritarian society.
If this particular party truly cared about libertarianism it wouldn't ban or tax anything, not that i need to remind anyone, but we don't live in a non-authoritarian society.
Who said anything about libertarianism? Again it isn't banning those things, this isn't rocket science.
But we're also funding a National Health Service, it's fiscally impossible to let people eat, drink and smoke themselves to death when treating those related illnesses comes out of the government budget.
Soldato
This isn't how life works. Eventual illness and death is a guarantee. Just because someone doesn't die at 45 because of sugar or smoking doesn't mean he's not going to die at 70 or 80, and then eventually require medical services.
Sugar is an essential foodstuff btw. You talk about eating oneself to death but it's not sugar that's going to kill you. You can eat **** loads of food containing zero sugar and still die.
Damn strider talking so much sense as usual. Most other people seem to not give a **** about anything they don't have shares in lol. And anything they do have shares in will be irrationally defended to hell.
Whilst I subscribe to the 2nd law of thermodynamics, i.e. calories and energy balance is king, I don't disagree that sugar is probably a very easy way to consume a lot of calories for a lot of people and it's not the worst idea in the world to at least some what deter people from drinking 800 calories in Coca Cola whilst it does nothing to actually satiate them.
Welp when it's the constant argument used against Labour for being authoritarian, it's boring af. The Tories are as much if not more so depending on the subject matter. I find it truly awkward when certain libertarian minded individuals vote for Tories simply on this 'fact'.
Indeed Parliament is currently talking about further "regulations" on internet porn, a distinctly Tory policy line that has no merit in being functional, but time is wasted on it regardless when they should be discussing far more important subjects. On the subject of authority being perceived through a **** covered lens, lets take Article 13 as puerile example of the massive disconnect between reality and what people believe, it's a RIGHT WING article fundamentally by RIGHT WING authoritarians. Yet most weirdo's think it's a liberul lefty policy, the ******* sadism.
So in reply to my post you decided to make up a straw man argument?
You’ve gone off on a bit of a tangent tbh... rather than respond to what has been posted you’ve argued against some imagined position you’ve come up with yourself.
Man of Honour
What you're talking about is anarchy. In practice, anarchy can't exist except rarely and on a very small scale because it results in a power vacuum that will be filled by whoever is skilled and ruthless enough to do so...and thus it leads to authoritarianism.
Soldato
It is her company, and owns it starting from nothing. Can do what she likes.
Met the woman when I was working there. She is nice, very down to earth, working in a tiny office with open glass so everyone can see in.
I got no issue with it in itself, the owner can take out what they want.
Is it greed? yes, but it is what it is, its capitalism and there is nothing wrong with taking money out of a business you own.
Away from bet365 tho I found something interesting with problem gamblers.
There is a guy on youtube who posts videos from him betting. Including some fruit machine videos.
What got my attention was that he prefers UK machines to american style machines.
To those who dont know, UK machines are actually rigged, they guarantee a ongoing profit for the operator of the machine, they achieve this by been able to force losses on feature games and such.
So both american and british machines have a target win % where typically the highest it can be set to is 98% I think. With american machines, every roll is random, and the win % is achieved as an average over a period of time by the odds of outcomes. British machines will tend to go on long runs with only small wins or no wins been given out but then suddenly have a happy period where you may get jackpot or two in short succession. What actually happens is on a british machine when it detects its fell too far below the win rate, it will manipulate winning combinations, allow for successful gambles on features an may even activate a invincibility mode, where it forces a winning gamble up to the top feature (the player still has to choose to gamble, if they do they will always win, e.g. betting low on a 2 will roll a 1), once big wins are paid out, it will go back into its normal mode, where it becomes tight and set limits on the feature section how far a player can progress at any given time, e.g. if £4 is the set limit then a gamble on £4 will have a 100% chance of loss.
So this gambler plays on various machines and I watch the video noticing how crappy the british machines are, then he moves onto the american machine, and keeps winning ever few spins, they not big prizes, but he is making a profit, at the end of the video he goes on about how he hates the american style machine, so I asked him on the comment section what the issue was as he made a profit on it and didnt have long spells of no wins, he said the prizes are too low he plays for big money wins only.
After watching some more of his videos where he plays online poker and roulette I work out he is an addict, he does things like carry on when he is well in profit and then loses it all, because he is chasing previous losses.
Conclusion? I feel that the uk fruit machines are designed to keep addicts playing, to be able to pay out jackpots, they have to have long winless runs so they still make a profit, but gamblers like this guy likes them for that reason because of the big payouts.
Is it greed? yes, but it is what it is, its capitalism and there is nothing wrong with taking money out of a business you own.
Away from bet365 tho I found something interesting with problem gamblers.
There is a guy on youtube who posts videos from him betting. Including some fruit machine videos.
What got my attention was that he prefers UK machines to american style machines.
To those who dont know, UK machines are actually rigged, they guarantee a ongoing profit for the operator of the machine, they achieve this by been able to force losses on feature games and such.
So both american and british machines have a target win % where typically the highest it can be set to is 98% I think. With american machines, every roll is random, and the win % is achieved as an average over a period of time by the odds of outcomes. British machines will tend to go on long runs with only small wins or no wins been given out but then suddenly have a happy period where you may get jackpot or two in short succession. What actually happens is on a british machine when it detects its fell too far below the win rate, it will manipulate winning combinations, allow for successful gambles on features an may even activate a invincibility mode, where it forces a winning gamble up to the top feature (the player still has to choose to gamble, if they do they will always win, e.g. betting low on a 2 will roll a 1), once big wins are paid out, it will go back into its normal mode, where it becomes tight and set limits on the feature section how far a player can progress at any given time, e.g. if £4 is the set limit then a gamble on £4 will have a 100% chance of loss.
So this gambler plays on various machines and I watch the video noticing how crappy the british machines are, then he moves onto the american machine, and keeps winning ever few spins, they not big prizes, but he is making a profit, at the end of the video he goes on about how he hates the american style machine, so I asked him on the comment section what the issue was as he made a profit on it and didnt have long spells of no wins, he said the prizes are too low he plays for big money wins only.
After watching some more of his videos where he plays online poker and roulette I work out he is an addict, he does things like carry on when he is well in profit and then loses it all, because he is chasing previous losses.
Conclusion? I feel that the uk fruit machines are designed to keep addicts playing, to be able to pay out jackpots, they have to have long winless runs so they still make a profit, but gamblers like this guy likes them for that reason because of the big payouts.
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Soldato
@chrcoluk it's all rigged and designed to get people addicted, that's the point. If you strip it back to basics, a punter could get really good at his chosen field and keep winning e.g. he may get to really know his football.
2 things will ensure he is doomed to failure:
1. The odds he is given by the Bookmaker.
2. If he keeps winning, he will be barred from placing any more bets.
But hey, as long as the gaming companies keep making massive profits then anyone who points the finger is just jealous. Apparently.
2 things will ensure he is doomed to failure:
1. The odds he is given by the Bookmaker.
2. If he keeps winning, he will be barred from placing any more bets.
But hey, as long as the gaming companies keep making massive profits then anyone who points the finger is just jealous. Apparently.
Soldato
Remember folks, in todays modern age NO-ONE is responsible for their own actions!!! I mean you're not a weak person without the will-power to be an adult or to seek help, it's all some nameless/faceless corporations fault for tricking you!!!!
The attitude towards success from some in this place is disgusting.
The attitude towards success from some in this place is disgusting.