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Not when basing it on 100% being the 8320 outlay. 
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Then your English is wrong.
It doesn't perform to 150% of the FX83 is apt.
150% more is the wrong syntax.
It doesn't perform to 150% of the FX83 is apt.
150% more is the wrong syntax.
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Yes. Quite true, as long as the % is right though when we are discussing these comparisons, let's not forget the old chestnut: 99 times out of 100...
If it were me posting the metric, it would read, i7 3.5Ghz being 100% performance costing 250, and say 8350 3.5Ghz costing 160 60% of the performance of an equivalant clocked i7 etc.
So 40% less performance (clock per clock) but costing 60% less money...
I think this makes a little bit of sense I hope....
The improvements for the FX chips are likely a combination of optimised compilation (which will take into account AMD's architecture and newer CPU instructions) and this being the first game released that really makes use of up to 8 cores well.
As to BF3 multi player, it is harder on the CPU than single player. Whether that's the case for BF4 remains to be seen, but I'd guess that Mantle will all but remove CPU bottlenecks.
As to BF3 multi player, it is harder on the CPU than single player. Whether that's the case for BF4 remains to be seen, but I'd guess that Mantle will all but remove CPU bottlenecks.
I'm desperate to see what Mantle offers tbh.
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Using a single R290X 
Colour me disappointed.
Looking at their results, their sequence is entirely GPU bottlenecked, look at the i3 result.
Run the tests again, you could end up with an entirely different line up (Each with pretty much the same results as they're getting now, but we're at margin of error.)
Colour me disappointed.
Looking at their results, their sequence is entirely GPU bottlenecked, look at the i3 result.
Run the tests again, you could end up with an entirely different line up (Each with pretty much the same results as they're getting now, but we're at margin of error.)
Using a single R290X
Colour me disappointed.
Looking at their results, their sequence is entirely GPU bottlenecked, look at the i3 result.
Run the tests again, you could end up with an entirely different line up (Each with pretty much the same results as they're getting now, but we're at margin of error.)
Oh dear that review is bad.
100% GPU bound.
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Using a single R290X
Colour me disappointed.
Looking at their results, their sequence is entirely GPU bottlenecked, look at the i3 result.
Run the tests again, you could end up with an entirely different line up (Each with pretty much the same results as they're getting now, but we're at margin of error.)
Yes, we need another 290x chucked in there.
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I think the price/performance arguement is a very valid one, however the graph isn't showing fps/£ so I think discussions over which CPU is actually better is also valid.
I'm still hoping someone can link me to a source that shows that BF4 is optimisedfor both Intel and AMD as opposed to just one or the other?
It sometimes seems if something is 'anti-AMD' then multiple sources are need to confirm it. However if something is 'pro-AMD' (or 'anti-Intel/Nvidia') then a source is rarely required.
I know I'm probably sounding like an Nvidia/intel fanboy, but i'm not, I just sometimes get sick of all the Pro-AMD posts (a lot of which seems to do it because it's the done thing). I own a Phenom II X6 1055T and FX8350 as well as the CPUs in my sig. And as my sig shows I have both AMD and Nvidia graphics card (I actually use more AMD graphics cards than Nvidia).
I'm still hoping someone can link me to a source that shows that BF4 is optimisedfor both Intel and AMD as opposed to just one or the other?
It sometimes seems if something is 'anti-AMD' then multiple sources are need to confirm it. However if something is 'pro-AMD' (or 'anti-Intel/Nvidia') then a source is rarely required.
I know I'm probably sounding like an Nvidia/intel fanboy, but i'm not, I just sometimes get sick of all the Pro-AMD posts (a lot of which seems to do it because it's the done thing). I own a Phenom II X6 1055T and FX8350 as well as the CPUs in my sig. And as my sig shows I have both AMD and Nvidia graphics card (I actually use more AMD graphics cards than Nvidia).
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Deffo needs another R290X chucked in.
Or overclock the R290X (Then again, they probably like their eardrums)
Guess a single R290 and my i5 4670K will be a decent match.
Or overclock the R290X (Then again, they probably like their eardrums)
Guess a single R290 and my i5 4670K will be a decent match.
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Two 7950's or 7970's would reflect a more popular crossfire setup.
Thing is? the game is going to be GPU bound. Which is why an AMD CPU makes more sense, simply because it's cheaper. I priced up two bundles today.. One was -
AMD FX 6300 £84.87
Asus M5A97 R2.0 £59
Crucial Ballistic 2x4gb DDR3 £53.
Total = £196.87. The 4670K alone costs £174. £22 less than an entire AMD bundle. The board I picked is full sized, 4+2 so not 4+1 and has great VRM cooling.. Onto the big hitter...
AMD FX 8320 £116.93
Asus M5A99x Evo R2.0 £95.98
Crucial Ballistic 2x4gb DDR3 £53.
Total = £265.91 The I7 4770K costs £237.40. So again, for £28 or so you can have a full bundle, rather than just a CPU.
Then you can use the money you saved (well in excess of £100 on either system) to put into your GPU. So instead of getting a R280X you can get a R290, and your money has gone where it matters, not on stupid snobbery.
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