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matthew2456 said:
Did you get this sorted in the end?

I am having a similar problem, the early stroker trails didnt have the correct grease behind the pistons.

Square wheels told me they hadnt had this problem with any of the other cc's they sold!

Hayes are now sending me grease kit.
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Still haven't got it sorted. I've taken it to an LBS and they said it's not something I should be worrying about – despite the rear caliper being off the rotor's plane – since they aren't rubbing that much :confused:

I think might take it back (or to a different shop) and insist that they fix the alignment, as it's quite irritating :/

Is it likely I'll have to get the frame faced to fix the alignment? Seems odd, since it's such a new bike.
 
SDK^ said:
The Session 88 is a very decent bike, it would be my DH choice also :)
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I'm not jumping on any bandwagon, but here are my personal experience facts

Pro's
* Fantastic riding bike
* Light
* "Cheap" and race ready

Cons
* I regularly ride with 4 guys who own them. All of them have serious dents in them... and I mean BIG dents. Some range from only some rocks being kicked up by the front wheel, some from stacks etc.
No matter what Trek say, this is a fact and the frame gets ragged to pieces very very easily.
* The bearings need constant servicing/replacing
* You can not sell them on, or will have a very hard job of doing so. a testament to this is purely the amount of Sessions on SDH/Ebay that people just can not shift. Seen a frame go for less then £800.

The fact of the matter is, they are just not durable and anyone that's racing them for a season, WILL need a new frame by the end of it.

2/4 riding mates have already gotten rid of theirs after 6 months of use.
Another one is getting a replacement front triangle sent.


crankbro said:
Light, nice ride. Dont like sundays, had too many Glorys and not too fussed on next years model. Nothing else has really caught my eye either.
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I guess you're not familiar with the term "tampon bike" then are you ;)
I don't mean to sound like a interweb kid, jumping on a bandwagon.
Your choice is of course your own... and if it makes you happy why the hell not, I'm just saying for someone coming off a glory to a Session and meaning to race it might be in for a bit of a shock.

There are just so many sick bikes coming out either very soon or are out, new Banchee, Rage DH, KTM, K nine, New Glory, 951 the list seems endless :)
 
andi said:
Hayes seem to be really good for service, a few people on MTBR complained about noisy stroker trails and Hayes sent them out new pads.
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I noticed this too, and I'm just about to send them an email as my rear brakes screech like hell when they're in use :p

Jonny ///M said:
What exactly is this problem?
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The rear brake caliper is off-plane with the rotor, meaning it's impossible to get the rotor to sit nicely between the pads without rubbing. It's not a massive problem in itself as it doesn't make much noise (until I pump them at least), but it's annoying and I'm a perfectionist :o
 
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Jonny ///M said:
So the caliper and pads are parralel with the rotor but the left pad is too close to the rotor with the caliper to the very left?
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Nope, the pads aren't parallel to the rotor; here's a picture:

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Obviously it's not as extreme as this :)

Might this be related to the incessant squealing I'm getting from the rear brakes?
 
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It would be a factor in the squeeling aye. How do you know its the brakes fault? Generally the post mount sections of the caliper and mount are bang on. I'd be looking at frame allignment or getting the disc mounts faced.

If you take a pic of the setup with the caliper off the IS > post mount adapter the adapter should be parallel to the rotor, if thats the case then them the caliper or the mount surface must have some sort of defect.

50% of the cheap halfords bikes with discs the mounts are not very well made. You find the caliper spacing cant be made correct as the actual IS tabs are out of spec. Grease behind the pistons sounds like a weird one......copper grease(very little) behind the pad is known to help squeeling brakes.
 
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Damn it want my Rockhopper now!

Picking it up from Leisure Lakes in Preston on Sunday. Will have ride around the track then.
 
Well I paid a little over the odds for it, but I fell in love after taking it for a test ride.

Scott Scale 35

Rock Shox Reba SL 100mm Air
Carbon Composite frame
SRAM X9 back
SRAM X9 shifters
Shimano SLX front
Mavvic Rims
Avid Juicy 3.5 Hydraulic

Loved the feel of the bike, very light and very agile :) Not taken it out for a proper blast yet, need to wait till Saturday.

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I've read and ridden that, loved it.

Was on the verge of buying it but pulled out and now stock is hard to find. Plus the 2010 model looks nice :)

Am I right it's based on a stumpy frame?
 
Robert said:
I've read and ridden that, loved it.

Was on the verge of buying it but pulled out and now stock is hard to find. Plus the 2010 model looks nice :)

Am I right it's based on a stumpy frame?
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Yeah apparently it is based on the stumpy frame. I test rode the Rockhopper 2010 SL Pro but didn't like it sadly, nice bike don't get me wrong but just was a more relaxed, upright position on the bike which I'm not keen on :)
 
Robert said:
I've read and ridden that, loved it.

Was on the verge of buying it but pulled out and now stock is hard to find. Plus the 2010 model looks nice :)

Am I right it's based on a stumpy frame?
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Don't know if its changed for 2010, but the 2009 is the old stumpjumper frame.
 
VaderDSL said:
Yeah apparently it is based on the stumpy frame. I test rode the Rockhopper 2010 SL Pro but didn't like it sadly, nice bike don't get me wrong but just was a more relaxed, upright position on the bike which I'm not keen on :)
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Other than not liking the ride position what did you think?

Was it nice and light?
 
Inquisitor said:
Might this be related to the incessant squealing I'm getting from the rear brakes?
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You may be chasing the wrong cause for your problem.

Email hayes and ask for the stroker grease kit and updated disc pads.

The original strokers did not have enough / the correct grease behind the calipers so they do not release properly. This causes the squeeling, google "stroker squeeling," and can make you think that the hole assembly is incorrectly aligned.

There is another known problem where the pads rub on the vanes of the rotor and cause a gurgling sound, the new revision pads help this or you can remove some material on pad so they do not overlap the vanes - as I have done.
 
Jonny ///M said:
It would be a factor in the squeeling aye. How do you know its the brakes fault? Generally the post mount sections of the caliper and mount are bang on. I'd be looking at frame allignment or getting the disc mounts faced.

If you take a pic of the setup with the caliper off the IS > post mount adapter the adapter should be parallel to the rotor, if thats the case then them the caliper or the mount surface must have some sort of defect.
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I'll have a look today!

Edit: the adapter definitely seems to be a bit off. Having taken it off, I think it might be that there's a little bit of paint around the edge of the surface that the spacer washers sit on (which is mostly just base metal), which could be causing them to be a little bit wonky. Is this something I can fix myself?

matthew2456 said:
You may be chasing the wrong cause for your problem.

Email hayes and ask for the stroker grease kit and updated disc pads.

The original strokers did not have enough / the correct grease behind the calipers so they do not release properly. This causes the squeeling, google "stroker squeeling," and can make you think that the hole assembly is incorrectly aligned.

There is another known problem where the pads rub on the vanes of the rotor and cause a gurgling sound, the new revision pads help this or you can remove some material on pad so they do not overlap the vanes - as I have done.
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Thanks, I've emailed them about it so hopefully they'll send me some new pads and grease :)

And yeah you're right, the pads do overlap with the rotor arms a bit.
 
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