*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

ic1male said:
Oh yes and was so miserable that I barely lasted a week. It doesn't fit my lifestyle at all. I lost most of my weight doing keto, yes, but not even counting calories at all! 800 is way too low for anyone, even the most overweight people. I would not go lower than 1200kcals what ever weight you is.
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Yes I appreciate that 800 calories will be a challenge, realistically I imagine that I'll be doing 900 to 1000 cal per day (higher protein) as beneath my fat I am a large man.

I have done prolonged fasting previously and once you get into it hunger isn't a problem, I'm hoping that this diet will be the same.

I have next week off work so hopefully I'll have cracked the hunger issue by the time I go back.
 
Luckystrike123 said:
I have done prolonged fasting previously and once you get into it hunger isn't a problem, I'm hoping that this diet will be the same.
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The received wisdom is that full fasting makes you less hungry than heavily reduced calories. Certainly that's what I found when fasting: the first day or two are hard but after that you don't really feel hungry much. It's part of why I prefer repeated two or three day fasts to reduced calorie dieting.

Good luck!
 
Luckystrike123 said:
Yes I appreciate that 800 calories will be a challenge, realistically I imagine that I'll be doing 900 to 1000 cal per day (higher protein) as beneath my fat I am a large man.

I have done prolonged fasting previously and once you get into it hunger isn't a problem, I'm hoping that this diet will be the same.

I have next week off work so hopefully I'll have cracked the hunger issue by the time I go back.
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It sounds like you’re making a really positive change. Why are you already going over your planned calorie allowance on day one? It just seems like a horrific and unrealistic goal to set yourself for 12 weeks. I’m not sure that it would instil long term healthy eating habits. Good luck to you, but it’s not for me.
 
I agree, some of the ways some are trying to diet in here sound horrific and it's no wonder a positive permanent change isn't forthcoming.
 
I've got the Mosley 800 cal book, but think it would be far too severe for me, and not sustainable. The most effective diet ever I tried was keto, that was brilliant for weight loss, but I decided after a while that I didn't want to be that restrictive in my eating, and also as I get older am actually moving towards less meat, not more!
I think I would rather water fast and eat nothing than 800 cals, I reckon I'd be hungrier.
 
I’ve lost 20lbs in 4 weeks, been doing a fasting diet, I only have 1 meal a day which is around 7pm. Don’t really feel hungry as I have a busy job, need to drink a lot more though, I would have probably 1 coffee all day till I got home.

Feeling a lot better for it though, even when I have a meal now I actually feel full. I’m a diabetic type 1, and it’s a known issue for us T1 you never feel full!
 
Mr Jack said:
The received wisdom is that full fasting makes you less hungry than heavily reduced calories. Certainly that's what I found when fasting: the first day or two are hard but after that you don't really feel hungry much. It's part of why I prefer repeated two or three day fasts to reduced calorie dieting.

Good luck!
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There's a section in this video which nicely explains how the hormone Ghrelin kicks in to reduce hunger - one of the more informative videos i've seen on total fasting and like that he has used the muscular probe to accurately monitor his blood/body functions as he goes through.

Ignore the hideous clickbait thumb, it's actually a very well made video.

 
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SixTwoSix said:
There's a section in this video which nicely explains how the hormone Ghrelin kicks in to reduce hunger - one of the more informative videos i've seen on total fasting and like that he has used the muscular probe to accurately monitor his blood/body functions as he goes through.

Ignore the hideous clickbait thumb, it's actually a very well made video.

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Ha, I actually watched that last night whilst on my exercise bike. And yes, it's a good video IMO.
 
@SixTwoSix that thumbnail is awful. If you don’t eat for 40 days you suck in your already visible abs and get some better studio lighting?

The physiology of hunger is interesting. Being able to eat properly and regulate your blood sugar is pretty key to long term success. Massive sugar and insulin spikes are pretty easy to fall into with sweet high calorie snacks.
 
tom_nieto said:
@SixTwoSix that thumbnail is awful. If you don’t eat for 40 days you suck in your already visible abs and get some better studio lighting?
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Yup agree totally - hence while I felt I had to disclaim it and that the video itself is decent :) I've had it on my favourites list for a while and swear the thumb wasn't that bad when I first came across it.
 
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I've managed to get my act together this week. Armed with the Nutracheck calorie counter, NHS Couch 2 5K for cardio and Peloton app for strength training, I feel like I can get a grip on things again. Can you believe I've gone from 76kg back to 93kg in six months. Very depressing. It'll probably take me all year to get back there again.
 
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A high-protein diet is effective for weight loss (maybe even more than calorie restriction!?)
More good news for protein as it pertains to weight loss! A new study suggests that dietary protein beats both caloric restriction and a popular intermittent fasting (IF) protocol for melting fat. Researchers assigned 135 obese subjects to a high-protein, calorie-restricted, or 5:2 IF diet (5 days of normal eating followed by two days of fasting). Participants were also encouraged to exercise 3 times a week or at least 150 minutes. The high protein diet consisted of 30% of calories from protein, 30% from fat, and 40% from carbs. The calorie restriction and IF (standard eating window) groups consumed 15-20% of calories from protein, 30% from fat, and 50% from carbs. The IF fasting window consisted of two 500-calorie days per week with only 50 grams of protein. At the end of 60 days, weight loss, body fat, BMI, and waist circumference were significantly lower in the high protein group. Fasting blood glucose, HbA1c, triglycerides, total cholesterol, and LDL improved significantly, and HDL increased, but mostly in the high protein group. This is good news! You don’t have to go on a crazy restrictive diet to lose weight. Eating protein increases satiety, which naturally promotes a negative energy balance. This study has limitations, but adds on existing data supporting the high protein diet. Huge fan! Read the study here.
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McVities cookies is all the campsite shop had, so that's what I'm snacking on along with a bottle of Chenin blanc.
Not sure Cornwall has enough coastline paths to walk off the junk I'm eating this weekend.
 
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