And to be clear, as I think/know I've said before, I'm not against lifting. I lift. I don't think one of us is necessarily right or wrong, they are just different approaches and everyone has to find what works for them.
*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***
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Alright chaps. I started carnivore about 6 weeks ago. Priority was to try to stop psoriasis flare ups but second to lose some weight. The psoriasis side has been really interesting, I have the least psoriasis I have had in the 10 years since it emmerged. It is not 100% gone but may be 90% I had bad nail psoriasis too (generally bash a nail with a weight or something and it goes bad) and they are almost grown out.
Have lost a load of belly fat too, i didn't weigh at beginning but i reckon 3-4kg (now 83kg, at peak when I was massive I was 115kg but I came down years ago by introducing sport and eating differently). My lifts haven't gone down (they are down on a couple of years ago but I was single mindedly lifting and eating a tone during covid)
I had a cheat day last weekend and a homemade pizza and a glass of wine. Didn't have any reaction to it.
Need to try to figure out now what is messing with my skin, suspects being gluten, sugars, processed stuff (although never been big on it other than pizza / pasta flour that type of thing). May be cutting beer and wine
I felt like absolute crap for first 5 days but good since (although some bad moods but a lot of work challenges)
Inflamation is definitely a big thing (I'm 49 soon by the way). Loathed to start reintroducing stuff but feel i should - the idea was elliminate and then reintro
Have lost a load of belly fat too, i didn't weigh at beginning but i reckon 3-4kg (now 83kg, at peak when I was massive I was 115kg but I came down years ago by introducing sport and eating differently). My lifts haven't gone down (they are down on a couple of years ago but I was single mindedly lifting and eating a tone during covid)
I had a cheat day last weekend and a homemade pizza and a glass of wine. Didn't have any reaction to it.
Need to try to figure out now what is messing with my skin, suspects being gluten, sugars, processed stuff (although never been big on it other than pizza / pasta flour that type of thing). May be cutting beer and wine
I felt like absolute crap for first 5 days but good since (although some bad moods but a lot of work challenges)
Inflamation is definitely a big thing (I'm 49 soon by the way). Loathed to start reintroducing stuff but feel i should - the idea was elliminate and then reintro
Outside of fat loss, Keto/Carnivore are excellent for combating inflammation in the body. In your situation where you want to re-introduce foods, i'd pick a single food item and give it a good 1-2 weeks so see how the body reacts then move to the next. It'll take a while but long term it'll definitely be worth it.
Yes, thanks. I am missing vegetables to some degree. I may start there. I did have some carrots the other day in a broth that I could have avoided but felt a bit churlish.
Im still on with my course, 4 weeks on. Finding the workouts easier, well the recovery anyway. Its hard to measure weight loss and im lifting weights every single day mixed with cardio but more weights then ive ever lifted before so when i go on the scales its going down but not as much as id like. Meals are pretty standard, Chicken with a nandos marinade, brocolli, cauli and small amount of cous cous is tomorrows dinner, I have 3 eggs for lunch time.
Ive gone from having 100g of crisps a day (the big bags) to zero, no beer, no sweets, absolutely nothing pastry wise to a healthy diet.
NGL im absolutely loving it. Beats sitting on my arse playing some random garbage anyday.
Ive gone from having 100g of crisps a day (the big bags) to zero, no beer, no sweets, absolutely nothing pastry wise to a healthy diet.
NGL im absolutely loving it. Beats sitting on my arse playing some random garbage anyday.
Soldato
@omnomnom - the Nando’s hot sauce is really decent calorie wise. We use it quite a bit. Encona hot pepper sauce is also good. I’ve taken to batch preparing chicken breast, brown rice and broccoli lunches for the week and without a variety of excellent hot sauces I’d be bored out of my mind by now! Haven’t died of bowel complications (yet!) after a trial run of my home fermented chilli sauce today. I’d describe it as weird and delicious!
Two weeks and a day later, scales said 79.1kg this morning. I'm really happy with that, average of 0.3kg a week.
Soldato
I'm guessing you need to poo. I've heard psyllium husk is good for that.
Update on me - hate dieting. Haven't been able to swim yet this week as I was away with work. Eaten quite a lot. Not good.
Soldato
Dieting is horrible, changing the way you eat doesn’t have to be. There is no doubt that you have to run a calorie deficit to lose weight. That’s maths, or physics… whatever. What you can do is adjust your diet in a way that allows you to not be hungry. Snacks are good, eating the things that you enjoy is good. It’s about making the smart decisions to cut down on the right things.
A few things that helped me:
Weighing out carbs and calorie dense foods was key. Totally reset my idea of portion size. Loading my plate with vegetables (not potato!) fills me up and is very efficient calorie wise. Also delicious. It means that visually my plate is still full and so is my stomach.
Choosing good snacks - Kvarg yoghurt for example (83cal, 15g protein, 150g pot size). That’s the kcal as a chocolate digestive, but it has 15 times the protein and takes 5 times as long to eat.
Condiments - I love spicy sauces, and many of them are not only low calorie, but contain things like cider vinegar which can help regulate blood sugars. Encona hot pepper sauce is 5 kcal for 25 ml. Seriously good on chicken, vegetables or just about anything. Means you can make quite bland (but nutritionally good) meals come alive.
Eating what you enjoy - super important to avoid getting miserable and declaring that you’re “on a diet”. If you go down the pub and have 10 beers and a massive kebab, sure that might put your overall progress back by a bit, but it’ll probably just result in a massive poo and your overall mood being lifted. You’ll be going straight back to eating sensibly the days and weeks after and maintaining consistently. Telling yourself that you can’t go down the pub or enjoy a meal out will probably result in lower mood, lower motivation and prolonged poorer eating habits… because of that self imposed “diet”. What I’ve found interesting is that I’m looking more carefully at restaurant menus and choosing healthier and also lower calorie options. Not in every place and definitely not at the expense of having something that I really want, but I’m quite often swayed away from the 800kcal starter now!
Sorry for the rambling post! Feeling relatively motivated at the moment.
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A bloody nightmare to dunk in your tea however!
Soldato
With the weather starting to get colder I'm seriously back into the porridge every morning for breakfast. 40g oats, 200ml water, and a dash of honey (naughty!) and done!
Start the day with a few squats, average 15000 steps a day, and trying to keep away from snacks,but not overly calorie counting. Must try some of that kvarg yoghurt as I can demolish a packet of biscuits if I am not careful.
Weight is ticking down slowly, which is the best way.
Bread is still very much my downfall though so have to keep working on that.
Start the day with a few squats, average 15000 steps a day, and trying to keep away from snacks,but not overly calorie counting. Must try some of that kvarg yoghurt as I can demolish a packet of biscuits if I am not careful.
Weight is ticking down slowly, which is the best way.
Bread is still very much my downfall though so have to keep working on that.
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Soldato
Nairns dark chocolate oat biscuits are good for that!
Soldato
Porridge is ace in the mornings. I’ve been using almond milk which is very calorie efficient and makes it a bit more interesting. Frozen summer fruits on hot porridge are amazing too. My weekend treat is full fat milk porridge with the kids and I don’t need anything on that now because I’ve got used to the almond / fruit one.
I’m also having about 80g oats. What’s your daily calorie goal?
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Soldato
I don't overly calorie count these days. I have an idea of what calories are in what after a few years using MFP. Just mainly eat healthy food and stay away from junk as much as possible (not always, An occasional take out curry or a big mac meal) but it's working. As said, bread, and also having a horrendous sweet tooth doesn't help. I'll still walk past an apple to eat some biscuits.
I'm guessing around 2-2500 a day.
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Soldato
I stopped being strict with calorie counting and managed to maintain weight ok, but really need to be strict if I want to lose any. I’m at the point where I’ve been a normal BMI for quite a few months without feeling miserable or thinking that I’m on a diet. This is a good thing and I’m happy with my weight. What I need to think about is whether I want to lose more body fat. This will involve losing muscle as well inevitably. I’m making more of a conscious effort with training and exercise now, but I’m extremely time limited.
I guess the reason I ask the calorie goal is that I was asking what your overall goals are?
I guess the reason I ask the calorie goal is that I was asking what your overall goals are?
Soldato
I'm overweight, have been most of my adult life. I'm currently down a stone and want to lose another one which should take me into healthy BMI range. As I'm late 50's it gets harder as you get older. Heavy weightlifting is out, so I do some light stuff and squats just to maintain what muscle I have.
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This is why I prefer out and out fasting. I find it much easier to just not eat for a couple of days than to consistently eat less food day after day. Obviously need to be sensible about what you eat the rest of the time, but the aim is to get to a lifestyle that maintains weight anyway so that's not a bad thing.
I think I said before, I've been eating those Kvarg's for years, really good at around 90 cals. I like the Strataccella (sp?!) and Lemon Cheesecake 
I've brought my general intake down to around 2,100 this last week or so (from around 2,400-2,600). I'm such a routine-based person. A meal (lunch or dinner) is main, yoghurt, protein bar. One main is Huel, the other a reasonably low cal ready meal (I really like the Scratch Chicken Thai at 340 cals). Before bed was two apples, protein bar, cereal and probably a bit of choccy right before bed (about 700 cals) which helps me sleep. If I wake up, I feel hungry so I grab something else choccy like to help get me back to sleep. This happened a lot, so most nights was another 150cals or so that probably didn't get recorded. It wasn't uncommon for me to snack on something mid-morning and mid-afternoon as I would be very hungry. I know this sounds A LOT, but even with this, as I cycle so much, I can still loose weight, but recently I've probably not cycled quite as much and the weight loss has been quite slow, so I thought I'd tighten things up again.
I've cut lunch down to main and yoghurt, mostly removed the snacks, removed the choccy from before bed and removed overnight snack too... this brings me back down to around 1,950ish, so I don't mind if I allow myself something else as a snack at some point. But, if I can get in the routine, it should be good. Hopefully, I'm looking to drop another Kg or even two, before my last cycling to Spain this year at the start of November.
I've brought my general intake down to around 2,100 this last week or so (from around 2,400-2,600). I'm such a routine-based person. A meal (lunch or dinner) is main, yoghurt, protein bar. One main is Huel, the other a reasonably low cal ready meal (I really like the Scratch Chicken Thai at 340 cals). Before bed was two apples, protein bar, cereal and probably a bit of choccy right before bed (about 700 cals) which helps me sleep. If I wake up, I feel hungry so I grab something else choccy like to help get me back to sleep. This happened a lot, so most nights was another 150cals or so that probably didn't get recorded. It wasn't uncommon for me to snack on something mid-morning and mid-afternoon as I would be very hungry. I know this sounds A LOT, but even with this, as I cycle so much, I can still loose weight, but recently I've probably not cycled quite as much and the weight loss has been quite slow, so I thought I'd tighten things up again.
I've cut lunch down to main and yoghurt, mostly removed the snacks, removed the choccy from before bed and removed overnight snack too... this brings me back down to around 1,950ish, so I don't mind if I allow myself something else as a snack at some point. But, if I can get in the routine, it should be good. Hopefully, I'm looking to drop another Kg or even two, before my last cycling to Spain this year at the start of November.
Thursday - 15st 9.5
This morning - 15st 6.0
I'm fairly sure a lb or two will come back Monday and Tuesday. Much like weighing the day after a huge kebab meal, weighing after big rides goes a little the other side of the average. Still, it's the lowest I've weighed in at since June, so it's nice to see the extra effort taking effect.
This morning - 15st 6.0
I'm fairly sure a lb or two will come back Monday and Tuesday. Much like weighing the day after a huge kebab meal, weighing after big rides goes a little the other side of the average. Still, it's the lowest I've weighed in at since June, so it's nice to see the extra effort taking effect.
Soldato
Great progress! Massive kebab as a one off is mostly going to be water retention from the salt isn’t it? I went up just over a kilo after a buffalo chicken burger yesterday probably for the same reason.
Frustratingly I’ve not been able to do much cycling this year (apart from short commute to work). Would have been interesting to see if there was any difference for me being significantly lighter.
Where are you heading in November for your trip?