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Clov!s said:
I thought about the AR carbon shorty can but it's £600 so not worth it to me.

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Test rode an R1M at the Yamaha tour today :D

Just a 40 minute group ride so not really any chance to give it a proper spanking, but overall impressions are (and this probably applies to most of the current 200bhp superbikes): I'd be happy to own one, but I wouldn't.

First things, it's a ball roaster. Just sitting on the bike waiting to pull away the heat coming through the seat was insane! At the end of the ride I was almost burning myself on the frame through my kevlar jeans. I was even getting hot feet through the pegs which transmitting heat through the soles of my boots!

The brakes are a little 'woolly' as others have described them, plenty powerful but lacking a bit of feel. The brakes on my Tuono are better (brembo 4 pad non-monobloc calipers).
The riding position for me at 6ft 3 was pretty comfy, after a few hours it would start hurting but it was OK.

Now, the performance... 1st and 2nd gear are all you need for normal riding unless you're sitting on the motorway. It goes ok, I suppose... :D:eek: 1st gear around 6k rpm, when the rev counter starts going green to indicate you're now in the correct rev range, hahaha and shift up into 2nd through the quickshifter and it's off like a rocket. Too fast for the road really, bang up through a couple of gears and you're doing illegal speeds with ease.

Handling - didn't feel anywhere near as flickable as I thought it would, my Tuono is miles better in that respect. Doesn't like slow speed corners.

So, I'd be happy to own one as it was easy to ride, fairly comfy (apart from the heat), not particularly scary (although I never got more than about half to 2/3rds throttle) and didn't bite me in the arse. But, it's too fast for the roads, the handling needs you to be going at speed to get the most out of it and the gearing/power means it's bye bye licence time if you even think about getting into the fun revs above 3rd gear....
 
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Just realised why the R1 didn't seem that scary to ride, it's got less torque than my Tuono.

It may well have 200bhp but it only really starts to get a proper shift on at 8k rpm (that's when the tacho turns green), I was doing that in 1st at a couple of points :p so you can't actually get to the power unless you're willing to risk your licence.

Nah, give me a litre/1200cc v-twin with 80+ftlb of torque and 140-160bhp over a litre sportsbike with 190-200bhp any day of the week.
 
TallPaul_S said:
Just realised why the R1 didn't seem that scary to ride, it's got less torque than my Tuono.

It may well have 200bhp but it only really starts to get a proper shift on at 8k rpm (that's when the tacho turns green), I was doing that in 1st at a couple of points :p so you can't actually get to the power unless you're willing to risk your licence.

Nah, give me a litre/1200cc v-twin with 80+ftlb of torque and 140-160bhp over a litre sportsbike with 190-200bhp any day of the week.
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I was behind a zx-10r at the lights a few days ago, they lead onto a dual carriageway, in a few seconds he flew off, must have been doing 170mph easy, I'm not willing to go that fast on public roads.

I've never been a fan of sportsbikes, naked + torque is what I love.
 
TallPaul_S said:
Just realised why the R1 didn't seem that scary to ride, it's got less torque than my Tuono.

It may well have 200bhp but it only really starts to get a proper shift on at 8k rpm (that's when the tacho turns green), I was doing that in 1st at a couple of points :p so you can't actually get to the power unless you're willing to risk your licence.

Nah, give me a litre/1200cc v-twin with 80+ftlb of torque and 140-160bhp over a litre sportsbike with 190-200bhp any day of the week.
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superduke 1290 next then? :p
 
oh i grabbed a cheap ninja 250cc from a lad in work for commuting its fun, maxes out at 90 down hill but so insanely light.
 
Yeah it'll go from 'normal' speeds to a ton 120, 30, 40 in no time at all. If I did own a modern litre sportsbike I'd have to take it on track regularly. But even at my local track (brands hatch) you'd never get into top gear!
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superduke 1290 next then? :p
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Well... :D Fingers crossed around this time next year I'll be in a much better financial position, I might be able to get something a year or so old of the 1000cc/1200cc v-twin variety.

If I do manage to put away enough it'll probably be between the 2017 Monster 1200s and the 2017 Superduke 1290. Head would say 1290 but heart would say Monster.

Monster 1200s All the way ;) Yes I'm a sucker for an italian twin!
 
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TallPaul_S said:
Test rode an R1M at the Yamaha tour today :D

Just a 40 minute group ride so not really any chance to give it a proper spanking, but overall impressions are (and this probably applies to most of the current 200bhp superbikes): I'd be happy to own one, but I wouldn't.

First things, it's a ball roaster. Just sitting on the bike waiting to pull away the heat coming through the seat was insane! At the end of the ride I was almost burning myself on the frame through my kevlar jeans. I was even getting hot feet through the pegs which transmitting heat through the soles of my boots!

The brakes are a little 'woolly' as others have described them, plenty powerful but lacking a bit of feel. The brakes on my Tuono are better (brembo 4 pad non-monobloc calipers).
The riding position for me at 6ft 3 was pretty comfy, after a few hours it would start hurting but it was OK.

Now, the performance... 1st and 2nd gear are all you need for normal riding unless you're sitting on the motorway. It goes ok, I suppose... :D:eek: 1st gear around 6k rpm, when the rev counter starts going green to indicate you're now in the correct rev range, hahaha and shift up into 2nd through the quickshifter and it's off like a rocket. Too fast for the road really, bang up through a couple of gears and you're doing illegal speeds with ease.

Handling - didn't feel anywhere near as flickable as I thought it would, my Tuono is miles better in that respect. Doesn't like slow speed corners.

So, I'd be happy to own one as it was easy to ride, fairly comfy (apart from the heat), not particularly scary (although I never got more than about half to 2/3rds throttle) and didn't bite me in the arse. But, it's too fast for the roads, the handling needs you to be going at speed to get the most out of it and the gearing/power means it's bye bye licence time if you even think about getting into the fun revs above 3rd gear....
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Which ride did you get on? I got there for 10am and was told that most of the places were taken up until 1:30pm so ended up just having a look around instead. Shame, would have loved to get on one of the R6's or MT's.
 
I got there just after 10am, went straight to book on a ride - earliest one on the R1 was at 1:30pm so went up to getgeared to try on some leathers before coming back around 12:30. You do normally have to wait a couple of hours unfortunately as the rides are first come first served.
 
Aye, guess I got lucky yesterday as it was quiet...looked at my phone and thought "bloody 2 hour wait, bugger". Pick anything up from GetGeared? They've got a good bunch of people in there.
 
No, I'm thinking about buying the Furgyan Raptor leather trousers to go with my Rator jacket, needed to try on a pair to make sure they fit. Skinny but long legs doesn't make buying leathers easy!

The 1:30pm test ride actually happened at 2:00pm as they were running late too, so I left there at just after 3pm.
 
I've got a Dianese jacket that i'd like to buy some trousers for but i've got colossal calf muscles so can imagine fitting them into leathers would be a bit of a bother, not tried mind. Sporting Rev'It jeans at the mo with armour, much comfort.
 
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