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agnes said:
@Hades if it was my choice, I think I'd actually prefer the gen 1, again, I hate to say it but there will be silly drops or dings, but my main point is the lack of electronics. I do feel a lot of new riders rely upon rider aids far too much not only as a safety net but more as a requirement to ride. No ABS is a very good point, until you feel a front tyre start to slip or the rear dance out of traction, you'll never really get the feel of how a bike moves under our bodies. With that, I think you'll learn a LOT more from riding without those aids than with, obviously this brings a lot of risks but I feel they are outweighed by the cost and value of rider education.

The training to pass exams really is like a young chef being taught how to work the cooker top with the cooking skills coming over time.

As for the mileage, it is common for riders to keep bikes up until their major services, given it's age, I'd suggest using an independent garage who won't mind stepping out of the default service scope to give the bike a once over (until I just read they are including it in the price, great deal!).
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Yea my bike is 21 years old doesn't have any of that **** not even ABS.

To be fair, I'd take ABS, but you'd be surprised on a motorcycle how you can actually get away with locking your front (a bit) and how you basically need to use your rear brake like you are stepping on your own ball sack.

The main reason though is less things to go wrong, less sensors, less wiring, always good

Modern vehicles are WAAAAY over engineered.
 
The traction control on my Honda has engaged about 600 times in 2k miles. One was a proper save, the rest were just irritating. That one save might have been a rather embarrassing spill tho.
 
I've decided I need something cooler to wear in hot weather. I have a waxed jacket which is great and well suited to the Bonneville whan I had it. But it's far too hot in this weather, especially on a more adventure styled bike with wind protection. I was literally dripping in sweat on Friday. I don't know if I want to go down the typical adventure jacket route. I'm sure they are great and probably ideally suited to what I need but the styling can be a bit all the gear and no idea for someone like me. I also like the idea of the Klim Marrakesh but it can get a bit pricey once the wind layer, thermal layer and some waterproofs are added. Maybe I should just get a cheap riding shirt for the hot days.
 
Hades said:
I've decided I need something cooler to wear in hot weather. I have a waxed jacket which is great and well suited to the Bonneville whan I had it. But it's far too hot in this weather, especially on a more adventure styled bike with wind protection. I was literally dripping in sweat on Friday. I don't know if I want to go down the typical adventure jacket route. I'm sure they are great and probably ideally suited to what I need but the styling can be a bit all the gear and no idea for someone like me. I also like the idea of the Klim Marrakesh but it can get a bit pricey once the wind layer, thermal layer and some waterproofs are added. Maybe I should just get a cheap riding shirt for the hot days.
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I got this recently - it doesn't look too power ranger in the flesh imo, and my goodness much air!
 
Hades said:
I've decided I need something cooler to wear in hot weather. I have a waxed jacket which is great and well suited to the Bonneville whan I had it. But it's far too hot in this weather, especially on a more adventure styled bike with wind protection. I was literally dripping in sweat on Friday. I don't know if I want to go down the typical adventure jacket route. I'm sure they are great and probably ideally suited to what I need but the styling can be a bit all the gear and no idea for someone like me. I also like the idea of the Klim Marrakesh but it can get a bit pricey once the wind layer, thermal layer and some waterproofs are added. Maybe I should just get a cheap riding shirt for the hot days.
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Yeah if you can avoid the Marrakesh route you'll save a lot! Plus there are better solutions for proper hot days. I have the Marrakesh setup. I went all in :p.

I also paid to up it to L2 from the L1 ghost armour it starts with. That cost a bit! But it's still their flat stuff which I'm undecided on. Shaped just "feels" like it stands a better chance of being in the right place at the right time.

I also got it taken in a bit to fit better.

Where was I? Oh yes. In 35c days in the balkans last year I was still dying, just not quite as much. I'd have rather been in my proper mesh jacket then. There is still a big difference. In the UK, high twenties is about OK, although slow stuff like trail riding, again, it gets a bit hot as there isn't much air moving.

And don't get me started on forgetting to take the waterproofs with me almost every time I go out!

In summary: it's alright but I wish I'd just spent that crap ton on a textile BKS and then application-specific outfits for trips/trails.
 
Griffo said:
Yeah if you can avoid the Marrakesh route you'll save a lot! Plus there are better solutions for proper hot days. I have the Marrakesh setup. I went all in :p.

I also paid to up it to L2 from the L1 ghost armour it starts with. That cost a bit! But it's still their flat stuff which I'm undecided on. Shaped just "feels" like it stands a better chance of being in the right place at the right time.

I also got it taken in a bit to fit better.

Where was I? Oh yes. In 35c days in the balkans last year I was still dying, just not quite as much. I'd have rather been in my proper mesh jacket then. There is still a big difference. In the UK, high twenties is about OK, although slow stuff like trail riding, again, it gets a bit hot as there isn't much air moving.

And don't get me started on forgetting to take the waterproofs with me almost every time I go out!

In summary: it's alright but I wish I'd just spent that crap ton on a textile BKS and then application-specific outfits for trips/trails.
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Thank you.

I know what you mean about the ghost armor. I have it in my jeans. I love the jeans but the ghost in them feels far less substantial than the older armour in my previous jeans.
 
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Test rode a 2024 street triple RS today and it’s completely ruined me….
2 hours of absolute bliss (even getting slightly lost and almost green laning the damn thing along with the typical Devon school holiday road congestion on a very sunny sunday).
By far the nicest bike I’ve ridden (in terms of handling and power to weight ratio) and just shows that you dont have to have a 1 liter + bike to put some serious smiles on your face.
Bike equivalent of an Ariel atom imo!
 
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