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gpuerrilla said:
The scene has moved on, there are now FPGA bitstreams and ASIC units that blow away dGPU cards for efficiency and profits. Its no longer feasible to buy Ada cards for example as nvidia has reserved the scalper margins and just now charge an extra 20%+ from the Ampere era. Electricity being twice as expensive as it was has crippled most from bothering because for a dGPU to now ROI its years instead of the days from four years ago.

Apple have introduced their own M chips, as @CAT-THE-FIFTH touched on above there are "AI" cpu's already breaking in with laptops (much like phones) so it wont be long before segments of the pie establish and the gaming GPU is pushed aside to where it was a couple of decades ago.
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Yes I know.

I was just stating why you couldnt really get one.

Because they were essentially free.

At that time, 3000 series GPU's worked out free if you stuck them on nicehash for a few months.


That sort of insanely rabid demand wont be repeated.
 
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How much longer are we going to get big performance improvements when buying the next gen cards ?

Surely there got come a time when even nvidia will struggle to bring out faster & faster GPU's
 
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Jono8 said:
I was just stating why you couldnt really get one.

Because they were essentially free.
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Oh I know, its why my current card ended up being an earner over the lifespan, still use it for that but the demand from miners till now will never be as bad as 2020/21 for the reasons I mentioned earlier. The only long term issue is the retail price has stayed high even an enthusiast welps at the current market prices.
 
chaparral said:
How much longer are we going to get big performance improvements when buying the next gen cards ?

Surely there got come a time when even nvidia will struggle to bring out faster & faster GPU's
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tsmc's working towards a goal of 1 trillion transistors by 2034, assuming its nothing more than a slogan we have some headroom, a lowball estimate of 250 bn by 2030 is still going to be a good result
there also are reports suggesting that the next wave of lithography tech is going to be prohibitively expensive, but its not going to be a concern till the mid 2030's
 
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brostradamus said:
tsmc's working towards a goal of 1 trillion transistors by 2034, assuming its nothing more than a slogan we have some headroom, a lowball estimate of 250 bn by 2030 is still going to be a good result
there also are reports suggesting that the next wave of lithography tech is going to be prohibitively expensive, but its not going to be a concern till the mid 2030's
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Cant imagine the power requirement for that... There's been a steady trend of increasing wattage per generous.
 
chaparral said:
How much longer are we going to get big performance improvements when buying the next gen cards ?

Surely there got come a time when even nvidia will struggle to bring out faster & faster GPU's
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We're are almost there, or if you listen to Nvidia CEO, we are already there (as AI is the only way forth he underlines all the time).
 
MyBrainz said:
which then leads to a bunch of numb nuts saying 'this is the most I would pay'. Nvidia see this and then add more to it and the numb nuts then say their price guess 'was close' before coughing up their cash anyway lol
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Yeah, because Nvidia definitely check this forum when setting their pricing. :D
 
brostradamus said:
5090 looks far off, most major publications are reporting a CES reveal... which also means the 50 series is going to be the shortest lived nvidia generation from recent memory
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If it's a January reveal, please, please, please, please, please let the actual launch be either February or April, not March. I'm tied up with work for the whole of March and won't be able to take a day's leave (or even work from home) so I can open half a dozen browser tabs and wear out my F5 key in an attempt to secure a card.

If the Nvidia super AI bots trawling the forum for pricing data could note that particular point, I'd be grateful. Thanks in advance.
 
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I've gone with every generatrion, never had a xx90 level though, and I give into the hype since I got back into pcs, but I feel I MUST RESIST, and wait for the 60 series, even though the 5090 will be over twice the speed of a 4080, perhaps 3 times?

I feel like optimisation wise a lot of games now a 5090 would be getting performance a 4090 should be getting in an ideal world with good optimisation.
 
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I must admit, those leaked specs for the 5090/5080 (if anywhere near true) are quite depressing. It would mean there will only be 1 card faster in the 5000 series than the top end 4000 series.

At least when the 3000 series launched, we had a 3070 matching a 2080Ti, then the 3080, 3090 parts all faster.

If those rumours are true, then the 5090 will be faster than a 4090, but the 5080 won't be close to a 4090. It's going to be even worse going down the stack as well.
 
ljt said:
I must admit, those leaked specs for the 5090/5080 (if anywhere near true) are quite depressing. It would mean there will only be 1 card faster in the 5000 series than the top end 4000 series.

At least when the 3000 series launched, we had a 3070 matching a 2080Ti, then the 3080, 3090 parts all faster.

If those rumours are true, then the 5090 will be faster than a 4090, but the 5080 won't be close to a 4090. It's going to be even worse going down the stack as well.
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5080 10% faster than 4090, not worth upgrading even from a 4080.

So I couldn't upgrade anyway as I'm priced out of the market because I'm a poor peasant.
 
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