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Rroff said:
Anything less than a 30% uplift over the 4080, 20 or more GB VRAM and £800 price point is a failure IMO. But pretty sure nVidia will try and keep the price point (~£1200) with minimal performance and feature uplift they can get away with :s
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As GN said, they know from NVIDIA insiders that 4090 was (and still is!) WAY more successful than they ever anticipated. Customers shown them that such cards are very desired and they are ready to pay the price for it - especially with high amount of vRAM, more so than performance in games. This means 5090 might well be positioned even higher, with even more vRAM, designed for prosumers (for AI and other workloads) and not gamers (sans whales). That could easily push pricing even higher than 4090, because for prosumers even £2k is often cheap (they can discount it from the tax etc. anyway). As I see it, that sounds very possible and gamers might as well get castrated 5070 named as 5080 as that's more than enough for most - though, the question is for how much.
 
Tinek said:
As GN said, they know from NVIDIA insiders that 4090 was (and still is!) WAY more successful than they ever anticipated. Customers shown them that such cards are very desired and they are ready to pay the price for it - especially with high amount of vRAM, more so than performance in games. This means 5090 might well be positioned even higher, with even more vRAM, designed for prosumers (for AI and other workloads) and not gamers (sans whales). That could easily push pricing even higher than 4090, because for prosumers even £2k is often cheap (they can discount it from the tax etc. anyway). As I see it, that sounds very possible and gamers might as well get castrated 5070 named as 5080 as that's more than enough for most - though, the question is for how much.
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A big part of the 4090 success was that the 4080 was absolute garbage for $1200
 
Joxeon said:
A big part of the 4090 success was that the 4080 was absolute garbage for $1200
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...and nVidia deliberately manipulated the line-up to achieve this.

It's all right though, if it gives you the feels, then it's worth it at any cost. What a future we're creating for the next generations with this unbridled capitalism.
 
Ayahuasca said:
...and nVidia deliberately manipulated the line-up to achieve this.

It's all right though, if it gives you the feels, then it's worth it at any cost. What a future we're creating for the next generations with this unbridled capitalism.
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The whole line up was set out to upsell the next tier up.
 
In the grand scheme of things, the 5090 it's only got 8GB more vram than the 4090. Considering they are likely increasing the capacity per GDDR7 chip, it shouldn't be a huge increase in cost.

Less than 2k for a Nvidia branded 5090 is likely to be honest. It's all speculation at this point though.
 
it better be 32 gbs or dont waste the die space for packing in a 512 bit controller
its going to be a big waste of transistors in addition to the streamer tax that we have all got to pay
sheesh.. whatever happened to enjoying gaming solo in your batcave
 
I think RRP is going to be £1600-£1999 and the the fancy ASUS ones £2500-£3000. I have no choice because I need the RAM otherwise I would never pay the silly prices, or have to cough up £6000 for 48Gb ram workstation cards. It would be great if they made graphics cards where we could upgrade the ram ourselves.
 
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RanxZy said:
Considering they are likely increasing the capacity per GDDR7 chip, it shouldn't be a huge increase in cost.
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They're increasing the bus width to 512 (rumoured) with 2GB chips (same capacity on the 384 bit 4090), which does traditionally add a reasonable amount of cost (die and pcb space/complexity).

3GB chips at 512bit would be 48GB and 384bit would be 36GB.
 
TrojanWhore said:
They're increasing the bus width to 512 (rumoured) with 2GB chips (same capacity on the 384 bit 4090), which does traditionally add a reasonable amount of cost (die and pcb space/complexity).

3GB chips at 512bit would be 48GB and 384bit would be 36GB.
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With a 512 bit bus then Vram can only be in multiples of 8

384 can be multiples of 6
 
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