Blame on both sides

[Felon]

Like what?

Exactly describe how the US government gets taken over by Nazi's please? Oh wait 100 million people didn't vote? Oh dear, sounds like its not the Nazi's fault then is it?

rofl, judging my Trump's speech yesterday, and the KKK leader thanking him for it.... oh wait.

 

[Felon]

What do you think will be the inevitable consequence of allowing them to chant racist nonsense, btw? Assuming that all they're doing is spewing their nonsense but otherwise abiding by the law... what is the inevitable worse outcome you allude to?

Well, we know what happens in this country and the EU when we allow Islamic extremists to spew their nonsense - things end up getting worse, more people get taken in by it, it gets larger and harder to stop, in many cases and with people like Anjem Choudary - they know exactly what to say, how to say it and who to say it to, directly indoctrinating people. The end result is a big problem.

 

[Felon]

I am not hiding behind semantics. But I believe you are. Language is important and it's also important that we give freedom of speech to people within the law. The permit applied for was completely legal, hence it being approved. It was withdrawn when the inevitable violence occured. Your statement was wrong and you are avoiding that fact.

If you think what's happening in Charlottesville, should be allowed because it's "freedom of speech within the law" then I think you're being rather gullible. I'd say it's more like a complete hijacking of freedom of speech, to incite violence and racial hatred - because that's exactly what it is, hate speech dressed up to appear like freedom of speech, just so it appears to be legit, because that's allowed under 1st amendment rights.

 

[Felon]

How do you reach that conclusion from the fact I pointed out your statement was wrong?

Because you said the words yourself - "we should give freedom of speech to people within the law" I'm saying your gullible if that's what you think all is happening here.

And you haven't pointed out anything whatsoever as being wrong at any point, you didn't even answer the question I asked 4 pages ago, so I'll ask it again;

If white nationalists apply for a "unite the right" protest permit, involving the KKK and Neo Nazis - what do you really expect will happen? why do you think they're going there, regardless of what they said when they applied for the permit?

You're the most gullible person in the world, if you think they applied to make such a protest, and everything would be fine, lawful and within "freedom of speech" ...

 

[Felon]

To be fair Screeeech, what Hades picked you up on was technically right, they didn't get a permit to espouse hatred and promote the slaughter of blacks and jews

What is the point of a far right protest, involving the KKK and neo nazis, other than to promote the hatred and slaughter of blacks and jews?

Could you please point this out for me.

 

[Felon]

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying Hades is technically right, they didn't apply for and get a permit to hold a rally to espouse the slaughter of blacks and jews.

I'm pretty sure that when Jason Kessler applied for the permit, he didn't explicitly write "we're protesting, and we're going to shout about killing blacks and jews" on the form, but I don't think it matters, anyone with an ounce of intelligence, can read between the lines and predict exactly what's coming.

And that's the point I'm making, anyone signing off on that permit knows exactly what they're signing off on - a far right kkk/nazi rally, and anyone under any illusions as to what that truly is, is a berk as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Felon]

You really think you have the right to be violent because you don't agree with anothers ideology? You MORON. You don't like another's ideas and views so you attack them. That makes you a FASCIST. Textbook definition.

The liberals are the real Nazis.

I'm at an airport right now so can't really respond properly, but to be honest I was asking a question, hence the question mark, calm down.

 

[Felon]

Can't believe 10 pages back or so, people were practically defending that guy for "legally" obtaining a permit to allow him and his supporters to "have their say" which was apparently fine.

Now you see his true colours coming out

 

[Felon]

atifa/blm are a response to sjw online and msm brainwashing.
a lot of the line members think their opponents actually are facists because they've been trained to mis-identify facists. i.e. any white guy will do.

Yeah,

Just look at all that mis-identification

 

[Felon]

Exactly, if they used picture cards like the images above .... those are Nazis.

The vast majority of the people Antifa/BLM call racist/white supremacist/facist/nazi don't look anything like that. They look like regular folk.

ah yeah, I suppose - they look like these regular folk;

 

[Felon]

The violent ones are antifa/blm. The rest are like cheer leaders. I have nothing against those making their point in a peaceful way. The problem is they might be peaceful themselves but if you ask them if they think others should have the right to free speech they'll say no - they actually do support antifa/blm shutting people down, even with violence.

Well, you have to ask the question - is it possible to have a demonstration involving Neo Nazis and KKK members, dressed up in all the gear - preaching what they do, in any sort of peaceful way? is it not in itself inherently violent? Everything about both the people and their message seems violent in nature to me.

How can you peacefully want racial genocide and ethnic cleansing?