BMW and M Power Owners

Burned_Alive · 21 Feb 2017 at 13:37

Havana_UK said:
It's only a waste of money until you need to claim, just like regular insurance on anything else.

On the warranty debate... not a Z4, but I've had my car (e92 330d) around 6.5 years now and so have paid approx £3-3.5k out on warranty subs in that time (first year free as AUC). I estimate the car has had round £20k+ worth of warranty repairs during that period, which is almost what I paid for the car in the first place.

As a value proposition, I'd say it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. Sure, if I had taken the car to an independent then some of the bigger jobs might've been a bit cheaper, but also some of the smaller jobs might've never got done and I dare say that it would've still cost me more than that £3-3.5k for all the work that has been done.

[TW]Fox · 21 Feb 2017 at 13:42

The E92 330d is very much the other side of the argument though. The Z4 is the last of the simple ish BMWs.

Uncle_Gravy · 21 Feb 2017 at 14:04

Honestly now, is this reasonable for the car to consume this much oil?

My daily commute Mon-Fri in total is 200miles and then any other miles I do over the weekend, around every 2-3weeks I top up with 2L of 0W-30 Castrol edge, Is that fine and something I should stop worrying about and just put up with?

Cheer

[TW]Fox · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:00

Some of them use loads of oil. It's not great but it isn't unusual either.

grudas · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:10

Uncle_Gravy said:
Honestly now, is this reasonable for the car to consume this much oil?

My daily commute Mon-Fri in total is 200miles and then any other miles I do over the weekend, around every 2-3weeks I top up with 2L of 0W-30 Castrol edge, Is that fine and something I should stop worrying about and just put up with?

Cheer

I'd say check the z4 forums. My coupe doesn't use much if any tbh, sensor has not droped by a single bar yet. Different engine though so not comparable.

Will Gill · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:17

Uncle_Gravy said:
Honestly now, is this reasonable for the car to consume this much oil?

My daily commute Mon-Fri in total is 200miles and then any other miles I do over the weekend, around every 2-3weeks I top up with 2L of 0W-30 Castrol edge, Is that fine and something I should stop worrying about and just put up with?

Cheer

They use so much oil BMW have a handy carry case for one litre bottles of oil

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Suitcases-Travel-Bags/BMW-Genuine-Top-Up-Storage-Travel/B004QXYP58

Uncle_Gravy · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:21

I'll do some more research, but guess i'll put this months repair money towards tyres or ignition and sparks change, still planning to get it up to a higher standard than it is ready to sell in the Summer.

Simon · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:28

Uncle_Gravy said:
Honestly now, is this reasonable for the car to consume this much oil?

My daily commute Mon-Fri in total is 200miles and then any other miles I do over the weekend, around every 2-3weeks I top up with 2L of 0W-30 Castrol edge, Is that fine and something I should stop worrying about and just put up with?

Cheer

2litres every 1000miles ?

Uncle_Gravy · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:31

Simon said:
2litres every 1000miles ?

Roughly yes.

Will Gill · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:44

wow I thought my ap2 was bad (that would like a litre every 2500-3000 or so), I'd suggest there is something wrong with your car, my z4 would like a slurp (1 litre) every 5k or so

Marvin · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:46

My M5 gets through about that. Lots of BMW engines of around that period seem to like a bit of oil with their petrol.

What's strange is how variable it is between engines. Some use almost no oil and others drink it, despite being made only days apart and being serviced the same.

Uncle_Gravy · 21 Feb 2017 at 15:53

Marvin said:
My M5 gets through about that. Lots of BMW engines of around that period seem to like a bit of oil with their petrol.

What's strange is how variable it is between engines. Some use almost no oil and others drink it, despite being made only days apart and being serviced the same.

Chap on the Z4 Forum says similar with how variable it is between engines

ive had approx 30 m54 engined cars now and they are hit & miss. Some use 1l per 1000 miles some dont use any! anything less than 1000mi per litre is silly though.

Mine's been doing it since I've owned it and hasn't got worse since, I'll just have to keep an eye on it for now and worry about getting other things sorted, Summer is coming up soon and pushing that roof down manually is HORRIBLE!

Scania · 21 Feb 2017 at 17:01

Very hit & miss with M54 oil consumption, my old 530i barely used any in the time I owned it yet a work mate has to top his 330i up weekly, I don't think it's anything to worry about, my 530 used no oil yet still died of a failed head gasket, my mates 330 is on 290k now and going just fine.

Jonnycoupe · 21 Feb 2017 at 17:07

You need to get the oil companies to make their IP public then you could see trends on oil use?

Django x2 · 21 Feb 2017 at 17:36

Marvin said:
My M5 gets through about that. Lots of BMW engines of around that period seem to like a bit of oil with their petrol.

What's strange is how variable it is between engines. Some use almost no oil and others drink it, despite being made only days apart and being serviced the same.

That's because the first 100-300 miles of a cars life will go a long way to determining it's level of oil consumption. With cars like M5s, M3s, etc, I would guestimate that very few new honours wait the required break in period before giving it some beans

wingman · 21 Feb 2017 at 17:55

Conversely it was my understanding that cars which were mollycoddled in their early lives were the engines that suffered the most in terms of increased oil consumption.

Housey · 21 Feb 2017 at 17:58

There is a blue 330D that is from somewhere near where I live, maybe Hixon area, who drives like the internet image of a BMW driver. I believe in his mind he is Senna, he may actually call himself Fred Senna or something similar.

Just saying

acemastr · 21 Feb 2017 at 18:00

All of my vehicles (new ones) have been given a harsh break in period, none of them use oil. My 4th new vehicle now, the R6 got taken to 16k rpm on the ride home on it.

Have to disagree.

Housey · 21 Feb 2017 at 18:07

I ran both my M3's in by the book as I do with all my new cars, Polo GTI excepted. The E46 had a specific running in program and oil change service around 1200 miles, both of which were serviced the same. My first one never used a drop, my second one used around a litre every 10K miles. Many years ago my dad had 2 x Carlton GSi 24V's as company cars. His was run in by the book, his partners was smashed from day one. His never used a drop, the other drank the stuff. Engines can all use oil differently and in my experience running them in does not create a car that uses oil, perhaps the reverse.

badgeruk · 21 Feb 2017 at 18:11

I didn't top up my 03 3.0i Z4 in at all in the 18months (20,000 miles) I had it. So far I have yet to do it on the Z4M after a similar number of miles.