BMW and M Power Owners

Jonnycoupe · 27 Feb 2018 at 13:02

[TW]Fox said:
There is no additional room, infact I am fairly sure the 5 Series touring has more load space than the X5.

He was talking about kids and dog, the kids go in the back where there is definitely more room. More width across the car, less intrusion from the wheel arch and bolster, More Light from the side glass which is good for motion sickness, More head room and option of a full glass roof. Then the SUV benefit of the driver sits with a higher posture so there’s also more foot room between seat and floor and the tunnel is less instruction.

So yes more room - boot volume is irrelevant.

They are daft anyway as cars with parcel shelves quote up to that where as rollerblinds cargo barriers can quote up to the glass/headliner area behind headrest: plus the whole wet or 1 litre VDA blocks manufactures use to quote brochure figures. Some OEMs with non spare wheel cars even then quote the volume if you were to take the foam under loadboard inserts out!

SDK^ · 27 Feb 2018 at 16:05

Jonnycoupe said:
He was talking about kids and dog, the kids go in the back where there is definitely more room. More width across the car, less intrusion from the wheel arch and bolster, More Light from the side glass which is good for motion sickness, More head room and option of a full glass roof. Then the SUV benefit of the driver sits with a higher posture so there’s also more foot room between seat and floor and the tunnel is less instruction.

The G31 (5 Series) has 1cm more interior headroom (front and back) than the F15 (X5)

It's also 5cm longer so interior foot space is roughly the same.

Simon · 27 Feb 2018 at 16:10

1cm more headroom really does help my knees in the back of a car

MrMagoo · 27 Feb 2018 at 16:34

Hi,

Does anyone have experience of having the headlight washer replaced in a 2011 325i Coupe? A suicidal Pheasant has managed to snap the clip holding the springs/cover in place (I don't think the washer itself is damaged though).

Regards

kirkster · 27 Feb 2018 at 16:54

F11 535D is a winner and ticks so many boxes. I have looked at the newer shape 5 Touring and they are not worth the massive delta in cash I would have to put towards one. So I am staying where I am.

Jonnycoupe · 27 Feb 2018 at 18:35

SDK^ said:
The G31 (5 Series) has 1cm more interior headroom (front and back) than the F15 (X5)
It's also 5cm longer so interior foot space is roughly the same.

The pano roof is likely to offer more and the headroom you quote is probably vertical rather than the real world space offering that is diagonal, where the lower tumblehome of the glass barrel will offfer better diagonal headroom (W27).

SUV also benefit from the rear occupants being sat further apart.

Posture means you get more cabin space for your length on an SUV and when I said footroom it also includes height to avoid the feeling of posting your feet into letterbox.

We can discuss at further detail if you want.

SDK^ · 27 Feb 2018 at 18:44

Jonnycoupe said:
The pano roof is likely to offer more

A pano roof usually reduces headroom due to the glass installation

Jonnycoupe · 27 Feb 2018 at 19:06

SDK^ said:
A pano roof usually reduces headroom due to the glass installation

Depends if fixed or not, and if you measure to the closed blind. And then a case of which of the 5 measurements you use. Evoque is pretty impressive for that, mainly as there is no opening roof option.

[TW]Fox · 27 Feb 2018 at 19:09

Jonnycoupe said:
Depends if fixed or not

How many X5's do you know of with a fixed sunroof?

Jonnycoupe · 27 Feb 2018 at 19:14

Just built one, seems tilt and slide only and it’s a bottom loaded mech so that’s gonna impact room a lot. Anyway that was a generic point not really appropriate for X5, certainly on the Tesla Model S as that pano roof doesn’t even have a blind!

Dis86 · 27 Feb 2018 at 21:22

Jonnycoupe said:
certainly on the Tesla Model S as that pano roof doesn’t even have a blind!

Doesn't need one. 100% UV blocking and I think it's 80-90% of light.

dazz25 · 27 Feb 2018 at 21:47

Hit a massive pothole :mad:

Haven't been able to drive for 2 days as nowhere had that particular tyre in stock. Should hopefully be back on the road tomorrow...

Dis86 · 27 Feb 2018 at 23:12

Rim ok?

Jonnycoupe · 28 Feb 2018 at 00:03

Dis86 said:
Doesn't need one. 100% UV blocking and I think it's 80-90% of light.

Well that’s debatable but you can see why they have gone that way. Blinds also offer a degree of “cosyness”

dazz25 · 28 Feb 2018 at 09:03

Dis86 said:
Rim ok?

I hope so. Just in the garage now so I've asked them to check while the tyre is off.

Pen66 · 28 Feb 2018 at 15:09

Had 4 Michelin PS4S fitted today by BMW (cars getting serviced at same time). Had the service advisor on the phone saying that as they're not runflats then the tyre pressure monitor indicator will be on. Admittedly and naively, I thought it was a case of using the TPMS in the new tyres.

Is this right or is there away for the TPMS work with non-runflats?

Still to pick the car up so will query this later.

Dis86 · 28 Feb 2018 at 15:12

Total crap. I've never had issues with the tpms when I've switched over.

IAmATeaf · 28 Feb 2018 at 15:42

The sensor is part of the valve isn’t it? Just tell them to keep the existing valves on the tyres. Surprised by their comments, almost like this is the first time they’ve changed a tyre on a rim with a sensor or more like they are trying it on and will then sell the sensors!

Pen66 · 28 Feb 2018 at 16:03

Hmmm, a bit worried as I would've expected a dealership to have done this multiple times before.

Heading up there at the back of 5 so will ask if they have re-fitted the sensors to the new tyres. The service advisor definitely mentioned that the TPMS light on the dash was on as the tyres weren't runflats.

Silent_Scone · 28 Feb 2018 at 16:11

I see good ol' Jamie P just posted a video of him doing 190mph in his E46. I'm assuming it's obviously the 2JZ converted one he had a few months ago. Or not, guy changes cars like underwear.