Discussion in 'Motors' started by panthro, Apr 12, 2012.
The M3 I test drove did exactly the same as well
G48 is officially blue/green so anything G48 will be Ok
I drove a 1 year old one yesterday and it felt new so certainly wouldn't be entertaining a new one at anywhere near retail pricing. Did sound flat in normal mode but in sports mode it did sound much better (though still not a patch on my Evora (not a fair comparison given what I've done to Evora exhaust)). Really couldn't open it up given the road conditions but even keeping it <4k rpm it was going down the road faster than most things could hope for flat out.
No noise from the roof of the one I drove yesterday but interesting to hear thanks. Turbo lag a low revs was noticeable but once a few revs were on, whilst there it did spool up very quickly.
Caught up with Sales person for the new car this morning and basically said not a chance at the price you've given me, whilst typing this I've had a call back from a Business Manager who didn't laugh at the price I told her would be needed to "get me in the car in December" so we'll see what she comes back with. Just to complicate matters I've just make an offer on a friends V8 Vantage (4.7 manual) that he is half thinking of selling.
I believe setting one of the many optiooptions to sports permenamtly runs some gas through the turbos to try and eliminate the lag. Not sure which option it is, or if it's just internet bs.
The few times I drove an M4 (non Comp, don’t know if it’s different) I was extremely impressed with the relative lack of lag, I grew up on RS Turbo Escorts and drove a few Sierra Cosworths which had massive lag, compared to one of those the M4 feels normally aspirated by comparison, it’s relative to what you’ve experienced before I guess.
Just had a brown trouser moment on the slip road in the M2. As I was joining the motorway, must have put my foot down a bit too much for the conditions (tires may have been cold as I had only set off 10 mins before), it felt like the back end of the car snakes about 1 metre side to side. God knows what the car in the lane next to me was thinking.
Clearly I haven’t quite got used to RWD life but the greasy conditions probably did not help.
This car seems to attract idiots though as the car in the other lane was so eager to push on from the lights I thought it was going to crash on the corner.
I seem to attract some idiot on a daily basis, usually someone tailgating me for no reason. I really don’t understand it.
Thank you, I'll order a bottle.
Did the traction control not cut in?
I’m guessing you lifted off the gas completely which more often than not results in quite a violent “snap” in the other direction...
Reducing rather than lifting off completely is the better option.
If your not used / confident in RWD then look up a skid pan course and get yourself on it, I did one years back (in a truck) and it was undoubtedly the most useful thing I’ve done behind the wheel.
It won’t turn you into a driving god but it will prepare you for the unexpected and how to counter it.
As for the cretin behind you, sod him, your in front let him be as eager as he likes - once he’s past you - never allow yourself to be effectively driven by the fool behind.
I'll just quickly weigh in on the M3/M4. I've a 65 plate F80 M3 (non CP), and I don't have any noise from the roof, and the turbo lag is really minimal. I've done ~27k miles in it so far, so I have some experience to speak from!
I still can’t understand why the roof would creak. Maybe it’s bits of trim near it creaking.
I’ve never seen it mentioned and google suggests it’s never been mentioned before
Oh and this weather you have to be very smooth with throttle
It is bonded in? How is the metal roof fixed?
From memory the metal ones are welded. I'd hazard that what's creaking is the roof against the internal supports. I don't believe it's bonded to them.
Creaking might be the wrong word
You know when you have ice on the roof and you can hear it crack and stuff expand/contract as it warms up. It was more like that noise but more constant
No idea on that series M car, but I know when I had the carbon roof fitted to my E46 the metal roof was riveted and sealed on, don't recall any welding as Geoff Steel had it off in no time by drilling out the rivets, though those rivets could of been welds, I really can't remember sorry.
They bonded carbon roof in, its never creaked or leaked.
The only creaking in my car is normally from the false rear interior and parcel shelf area but for a track car all in all its pretty quiet.
Get yourself out onto the sidewalk pal!
They'll have been spot welds. Nice and easy to drill out.
Yep that is it.
I've been testing the car out tonight as it was really bad rain, lots of standing water on the country roads. Obviously trying with no one around and with plenty of space, I had the car in comfort mode and floored it from 10mph. Traction control kicked in but it still went fairly quick, no signs of the rear feeling unsettled like it did last night.
Thinking back now shortly before setting off last night I was toggling the different modes comfort to sport then sport plus and back again etc. Perhaps I left it in sport plus without realising which is traction control mostly turned off, or even sport mode which allows a little slip and is a bit more lively. There is no M buttons in the M2 (only now available in the M2 comp) to customize the drive settings, its basically all or nothing.
You're right though I need to get on a skid pan day.
I'd guess you'd left Sport + on without realising it - and it will bite in such conditions in that mode - my sister astounded me when she first took me out in their M4, shes as unable a driver you could wish to meet yet the way the car masked her inablity to use the M4's power in poor conditions was nothing short of remarkable!
But yes man, skid pan, absolutely, you won't regret it.
sport+ on those cars activates DTC which allows for a relatively fun amount of slip, have a play with it, it will bring you back before it gets too silly/dangerous - I actually quite like it, allows for safe-ish fun although it's a bit hard to tell if you're being a hero and saving it or if it's doing it for you... I had a good go on a skid pan with an F30 and the electronics are surprisingly clever. Ofc the I CAN BRAKE HARDER WITHOUT ABS brigade will soon be along to tell me the errors of my way. Until then I will enjoy flooring it in snow with DTC for no good reason other than it makes me smile on my way to work
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