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BMW and M Power Owners

Discussion in 'Motors' started by panthro, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. Cristian

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    I found that it matters very little how much it was now, but how desirable it is.
    I just sold my 2008 Audi A4 - It was clean, lots of maintenance done recently (engine mounts, clutch, DMF, glow plugs, decent spec, 3.0 TDI Quattro and the like. 110k miles. Autotrader suggested 3.5-3.8k trade value, I've seen similar ones on eBay end at 4.3 - 4.8k at auctions. I still got £6k for it, although there was a bit of hassle involved due to many people just talking for days via ebay messaging and then not saying anything.

    An e92 Coupe LCI 330D won't be a million miles away when new price wise from an e92 335D M sport, but the later will be worth twice as much on the market.
     
  2. [TW]Fox

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    Whilst I take your point (I mentioned list price as his post was written as if we were talking about a diesel Renault or something) an LCI 330d E92 is not worth half an E92 335d.
     
  3. Jez

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    ^ same is true of convertibles which are not much more than their hard top equivalents when new. When older they retain tons more value as they retain the purpose of at least being desirable in the summer.
     
  4. Cristian

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    Maybe not exatly half, but the gap is actually ridiculous.
    Cheapest LCI 330D is 5k, albeit a ropey one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201808249815347?radius=1500&sort=price-asc&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&aggregatedTrim=330d&make=BMW&postcode=ec1a7aj&model=3 SERIES&year-from=2010&body-type=Coupe&page=1
    Cheapest LCI 335D is 9k, albeit probably just as ropey: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...=Coupe&postcode=ec1a7aj&sort=price-asc&page=1
    This appeared quite recently and invaluates my point, but the gap is still 50% on average
    I was quite shocked to find out that the price gap it's nowhere near as big on the 5 series. :)
     
  5. [TW]Fox

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    You can't use the bottom of the market outliers to make a point like that. Who knows why that cheap one is that cheap?

    Let's do a fair and like for like comparison and take the glasses trade value for a 2010/60 example of both with say 100k on.

    335d M Sport: £9044
    330d M Sport: £7661

    Nothing like twice the value.
     
  6. Jez

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    Don’t worry the point will come good when the 330 is 1k and the 335d is 2k in a few years time :p
     
  7. Cristian

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    Agree, more like a 335D worth around 50% more.
    You can find decent 330D around 6k with minimal patience privately and a decent 335D for around 9k privately. I've just bought one after looking at the market for a while.

    I've illustrated with my A4 above how valuated trade values can vary wildly compared to reality.
     
  8. theone8181

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    I get the point, even at 50% difference, there's no way there was that much difference when new. Taking it even more extreme, look at how much an e92 m3 is worth compared to a 335d.
     
  9. Antony101

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    Can anyone recommend me somewhere I can grab a replacement fog light for my F11? A stone has caught it and smashed the glass and BMW want £136 for a replacement.
     
  10. Scania

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    https://www.fabdirect.com/

    Put your registration number into the eBay link and search to see if they have one, probably highly likely they are specialist BMW breakers.
     
  11. IAmATeaf

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    Blimey, not cheap are they, had a quick look at their alloy wheels and they are selling badly damaged alloys for 150+VAT each :eek:
     
  12. Scania

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    Tbh I’ve not used them for years but they were very reasonable when I needed a few bits for my old e36 - that was 2009 mind you - I guess they’ve lost the edge. :(
     
  13. BIGWEB

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    Just bought a new X6 (I know this won't be popular) I love the idrive system but was wondering if some of the missing options can be coded into it. Stuff like speed limit recognition etc. Does anyone have experience of this?
     
  14. [TW]Fox

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    By new X6 do you mean brand new or used? Depending on generation the answers are different.
     
  15. BIGWEB

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    Its a brand new one. It has idrive 6. I don't have the option for Apple carplay to be added within my connected drive thought which I thought strange. (not that it matter as I have an Android)
     
  16. [TW]Fox

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    Ah, this is because despite being a new car the X6 is still based on the old F10 5 Series so you have an older electronics system. There are aftermarket enabling boxes for speed limit display which force the system to use nav data only rather than the camera as well.
     
  17. BIGWEB

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    I was originally looking at an M4 and reading cutters I'm sure I read that if your camera on the windscreen says 'connected drive' on it then you can enable all sorts. Mine says this, Is it different?
     
  18. Dangerous Dave

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    You can enable the speed limit display if you have the KAFAS camera which is also used for adaptive headlights & lane assist. You need an FSC code from BMW to enable the camera based system and it is hard to get people that have managed it have paid £500-600.

    My wife’s car has the speed limit display and it’s ok wouldn’t call it a need to have it picks up a lot of false speeds from signs on slip roads etc and picks up the 20 limit from the school signs where the limit is only lower when the lights are flashing. It does mean on her car it is easy to retrofit adaptive cruise, swap of buttons on the steering wheel and a coding change.
     
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  19. Dangerous Dave

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    If it has idrive ID6 you should be able to enable CarPlay unofficially although you might need to add the WiFi antenna to the unit.
     
  20. [TW]Fox

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    Personally I would not want to be without speed limit display – gone are the days when a competent driver can easily tell the speed limit of a road just by looking at it. We have so many random and inexplicable speed limits these days that its easy to get caught out and the handy reminder on the dash is a great way of helping you concentrate more on the road and less what arbitrary number the local council have decided to allocate to a dual carriageway this week.