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I've read it on several sites over the past few months hence why I'm asking if anyone else had any information on this as I dont want to get into the car one day to find none of the online stuff works anymore!

My thought was the same, surely not every network are going to switch off at the same time

From BMW:

We have no confirmed plans to deactivate 3G functionality in the UK. The BMW Group are aligned with the mobile network operators and customers will be contacted if this impacts their vehicle's functionality - please DM us if you have any more questions.
 
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Coding - are people using Bimmercode and if so, do ONLY the approved OBD adapters work or do the cheapo Chinesium ones work too with it? BMW virgin here
 
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Oh it is. All networks have agreed with Nadine Dorries that 3g will be phased by 2033 and EE have confirmed theirs will go in 2023 but the other networks havent confirmed yet when but i doubt they will all stay until 2033

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59583783#:~:text=The UK will phase out,2G later in the decade.

As someone in the know on this... I can confirm the target is all 3G gone by 2033 but operators can go earlier if they want. Vodafone just announced they expect to go by 2023 for 3G to go.
 
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Anyone know if BMW will update the onboard 3g sim when they switch off the 3g network next month?

I'm in the dealers on Thursday so plan to ask whilst there but wondered if anyone had already done so.

So with all the people posting counter points to the people replying to the person above. Are you saying 3g is gone next month?
 
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So with all the people posting counter points to the people replying to the person above. Are you saying 3g is gone next month?

No....the Feb 2022 date is for the USA only. Europe will depend on when networks start to shut things down but 2023 seems the earliest date so far.

As for potential upgrades, so far in the USA, BMW have created a 4G TCB module but it's only applicable to certain cars - frustratingly the F10 wasn't included so far :( There's a link to what is covered here: https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2664669&d=1628076062
 
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But 2g is remaining for much longer, and I don't imagine RTTI is that data intensive given it was offered on 2g only cars when it first came out.
 
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But 2g is remaining for much longer, and I don't imagine RTTI is that data intensive given it was offered on 2g only cars when it first came out.
2G isn't sufficient for call and data simultaneously, and not enough to stream audio adequately.

3G equipped cars need upgrading by 2023 to ensure the current service continues to be delivered (coverage, speed, simultaneous call and data).

It isn't an argument you are making.
 
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2G isn't sufficient for call and data simultaneously, and not enough to stream audio adequately.

3G equipped cars need upgrading by 2023 to ensure the current service continues to be delivered (coverage, speed, simultaneous call and data).

It isn't an argument you are making.
In car calls don't use the car's 2G/3G do they? I always thought they used the phone's network and communicated with the head unit using bluetooth...

Likewise with music streaming. The phone's bandwidth is used
 
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In car calls don't use the car's 2G/3G do they? I always thought they used the phone's network and communicated with the head unit using bluetooth...

Likewise with music streaming. The phone's bandwidth is used
Services such as map updates, internet radio, Spotify connect streams directly from the cars head unit (data). Updates for remote services often use SMS/call.
 
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2G isn't sufficient for call and data simultaneously, and not enough to stream audio adequately.

3G equipped cars need upgrading by 2023 to ensure the current service continues to be delivered (coverage, speed, simultaneous call and data).

It isn't an argument you are making.

I wasn't making an argument, just speculating about the continued use of the services.

The functionality on the affected cars is mostly real time traffic information. The only calls you can make using the cars inbuilt SIM are to BMW Concierge or BMW Emergency Service and only a handful of people still use the music streaming functionality (It requires BMW Online entertainment, is expensive and doesn't support spotify).

So, really, the only big deal is RTTI - which can be provisioned over 2g as well because it is in cars with CIC iDrive.
 
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