Don't diesels have higher running and purchase costs to equivalent petrol engines? Not to mention other things like differences in sound, throttle response and gear ratios etc.
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Don't diesels have higher running and purchase costs to equivalent petrol engines? Not to mention other things like differences in sound, throttle response and gear ratios etc.
It's not new components that have had problems, it's been the suspension sensor, which is the same as the M135i, drivers seat creaking, same problem some people have had on the M135i, amp/control module blown and software problems...the dealer have also not done themselves any favours which is why it's now there for another week...
You've not had the BMW very long, have you? Must be pretty annoying
The dealer have done themselves no favours either, which is what is annoying me probably as much as the problems with the car...
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Hi all, what's your opinions on this, it's got what I want mainly sat nav and in my budget of £8,500..
Hi all, what's your opinions on this, it's got what I want mainly sat nav and in my budget of £8,500..
I think it would a compromise on both. It wont be very good at either. Which is exactly my point. I didn't for a second suggest you have to be hooning it everywhere either. But to get halfway respectable mpg's you would have to drive it very sedately. So why bother with a 330i?
I think 35 mpg on a run was pretty much the limit I saw in my 330i, not that I did that often, as mentioned above. But my S4 (4.2 V8) did 30 mpg on a run, so a 5 mpg loss there, and 2 mpg overall, was worth it. This is just an example of course, but I can't imagine other modern, (European) ~4L V8's being much different on the power / economy front.
Higher running costs is laughable to be honest. No they don't. Initial purchase costs, when new, are nearly insignificant. In fact, depending on how you compare models, a new 520d is cheaper than a new 520i. So no extra purchase cost. A saving in fact.
If your diesel is bought second hand, then yes, you will likely pay a little more, but then it'll be worth a little more when your finished with it. All the while, saving money on fuel. Obviously new diesels aren't necessarily suited to everyone, if you never leave rush hour traffic for example.
The rest of what you said is personal preference. Personally, I prefer the drive of a modern diesel for my daily driving duties, hence why I have one.
But that isn't the point here anyway, as we weren't talking about diesels? I was talking about why, IMO, the 330i is a compromise too far.
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Except it's not, it's a great engine choice. The fuel economy it offers is really very good. Only you think it isn't. There is no V8 alternative in the 3 series at this price anyway.
Not everyone picks a powerful car to drive fast. Some people like the fact they could if they want too but equally could just tootle about in it.
That's what is great about a 330i, quick when you want it, wafty when you don't and not excessive with fuel consumption. It's a great all ,round engine choice.
All the reasons why I love the engine in my 530i.
Not everyone picks a powerful car to drive fast. Some people like the fact they could if they want too but equally could just tootle about in it.
That's what is great about a 330i, quick when you want it, wafty when you don't and not excessive with fuel consumption. It's a great all ,round engine choice.
All the reasons why I love the engine in my 530i.
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It is good for what it is, I agree. But then I rarely see the point in a NA 6 cylinder, other than noise. But if fuel economy is a large consideration, it's not the best engine choice. Equally, if performance is a large consideration, it is not the correct choice.
If your happy with the compromise, then fair enough, but a small extra compromise on fuel economy can see a a vastly less compromise on performance. Equally, a relatively small compromise on performance can see a relatively large gain in fuel economy.
I know there is no equivalent V8 in the 3 series. But there are other cars out there.
If your happy with the compromise, then fair enough, but a small extra compromise on fuel economy can see a a vastly less compromise on performance. Equally, a relatively small compromise on performance can see a relatively large gain in fuel economy.
I know there is no equivalent V8 in the 3 series. But there are other cars out there.
I don't think there is a better car than a 330i at doing what the 330i does. The A4 was older and showed it (and not a patch on the 3 to drive). The C Class too wafty. There are better cars in the class above but many don't want that.
The market is much more competitive now but back in 2006 it was not.
The performance of the 330i is excellent anyway so this really is getting silly now. It was 255 to 272 bhp depending on year.
The market is much more competitive now but back in 2006 it was not.
The performance of the 330i is excellent anyway so this really is getting silly now. It was 255 to 272 bhp depending on year.
Like struggle to get a seat in rush hour, put up with phone signal going in and out etc. Not for me.
