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Makes perfect sense in North East Scotland. Not so much in Hertfordshire :D

See my other point about buying the bling spec 3 Series cab M Sport with massive wheels and then... making the car look cack by running 16's for half the year... might as well have saved the money if styling isnt important?
 
I saw that. Form over function then? We not allowed nice looking cars in the summer because we might spend a few months in the winter with smaller wheels? Just because we live a bit north? Your argument is plainly wrong. It just does not follow.

I also refer you to my pic a couple pages back of my 5 series on its winter rims. Running winter tyres doesn't mean your car has to look poop.

A reminder...


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We not allowed nice looking cars in the summer because we might spend a few months in the winter with smaller wheels? Just because we live a bit north? Your argument is plainly wrong. It just does not follow.

It doesn't follow for you because you are in a very tiny minority of the population that live in Northern Scotland. For you, it makes perfect sense.

For most people people why bother? If it's easy enough to do and you you want a bit of peace of mind then fair enough but trying to fit 16 inch steelies on an E93 M Sport just strikes me as being massive overkill. He is asking about the smallest possible wheels he can fit - he isn't just getting a set of winter 18's or something.

Our climate is dull, boring and predictable. This makes it not very exciting but it also means we need not make the winter precautions many of our European (Or far North) counterparts need to. It's December and you can count on one hand the number of times we've even needed an ice scraper in the morning.

Nobody cared before 2008, then we had a few consecutive abnormal winters and suddenly you are just not hip unless you run your S-Line Audi on black steelies with winter rubber even though our typical winter weather has returned to more or less normal for 2 years running now.
 
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S-Line Audi on black steelies with winter rubber

Oi. :p

Though I kind of agree with you. I certainly have never bothered with winter tyres before and won't be this year. Then again I probably won't need them?

I think it comes down to the conditions and the driving you plan to do. I imagine the police fit winter tyres to their vehicles (not sure)?

That said if I lived in north scotland it would be a no brainer.
 
To be honest, even then it depends on specifically where you are and more importantly where you tend to need to get to. Its hardly like a Scandinavian winter, BUT if you live rurally it makes sense to have a bit more grip available for the cold months.....then again I've always had far more problems with ground clearance when it does actually snow than I have getting moving
 
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Yeah don't need winter tyres...worked well in the past for me. :o

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If the main cause of that was ice coupled with gravity then they wouldn't have saved you there either.

Anyway I don't need them because on the few days it does snow here I either go to work when most people are still in their bed or stay at home (because I can, I completely get that isn't always the case for people). Ice or frosty conditions are a non issue as I travel between two large urban areas on decent roads.
 
If the main cause of that was ice coupled with gravity then they wouldn't have saved you there either.

Anyway I don't need them because on the few days it does snow here I either go to work when most people are still in their bed or stay at home (because I can, I completely get that isn't always the case for people). Ice or frosty conditions are a non issue as I travel between two large urban areas on decent roads.

Yeah, of course. Because nothing helps on ice right enough.


Or in the wet even...


I don't run winter tyres because of snow. I agree, we simply don't get enough of that. We do, however, get enough cold and wet weather in the winter to justify their use. Easily. Sure, you may well be able to complete your journey without them, but I prefer to err on the side of safety.
 
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I have used winter tyres, they are not some kind of miracle cure that will save you from careering out of control or sliding down a steep hill if its covered with sheet ice, like (i presume) blackhawks picture above. Yes they are a big improvement but people don't slide all the way down a hill into a procession of other cars because of a little bit of slippy tarmac that they could/would have stopped a little sooner on with just that bit more grip.

You seem to think I'm dismissing them, I'm not, what I'm saying is that up here (well a bit further than me really) in rural or particularly high areas I can see why you'd want them, in a built up area even as far as Aberdeen and its nearby areas they are, imo of limited use. If you prefer having them and need to be able to comfortably get out and about on some of the absolutely shocking B roads up there then fine, but its hardly comparable to someone living down south looking to change 19's for the smallest, bouciest wheel possible over winter.

In his case I'd be far, far more tempted to go for that bit more compromise in summer tyre (I.e all season) to gain a bit more traction in the cold/wet. Assuming there are no other factors at play I.e already has the wheels, wants a bit more comfort etc etc
 
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My M135i is in the garage at the moment, so they've leant me a 420d Gran Coupe - I must say it's a lovely thing (rattly engine apart), looks gorgeous in Estoril blue and rides and handles really well.

 
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The 135i Has had an error come up a few times - 'Flat Tyre Monitor(RPA) failure, and with it the traction control, abs etc get disabled and the steering weights right up with 'driving stabilisation, drive moderately' on the screen.

This is the second time I've taken it in for this problem, and hope it's the last, though I don't have a lot of faith in them (Arden BMW Maidstone) having fixed it.
 
The 135i Has had an error come up a few times - 'Flat Tyre Monitor(RPA) failure, and with it the traction control, abs etc get disabled and the steering weights right up with 'driving stabilisation, drive moderately' on the screen.

This is the second time I've taken it in for this problem, and hope it's the last, though I don't have a lot of faith in them (Arden BMW Maidstone) having fixed it.

Strange... Think you might have been given a dodgy one as I've not heard of such issues before.

Mine was fine.... Although I did only have it for a short while lol.
 
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