BMW and M Power Owners

[TW]Fox · 10 Dec 2014 at 21:00

Gaygle said:
Call up Harry Fairbairn Kirkcaldy BMW parts (01592 657808) and quote the part number 83122298207 and say that you are a BMWforums.info user and it'll be £15.32 including next day Fedex delivery (items despatched on Weds and Fri).

Should hopefully still be being sold as they were still selling it on 1st December.

How much do you get for that and whats the concentration?

Tom|Nbk · 10 Dec 2014 at 21:40

mrk said:
Hmm I did some reading up and it seems Reddish in Bristol do the best subframe job in the UK perhaps and they document the entire job with photos as well as do a brake fluid change + other bits.

I'll dog deeper and see what's what. This assuming the car itself is sound of course! I don't do many miles, 3000 a year if even that and the mileage of the car is 63k, the guy said it's in excellent condition so if it's anything like my current E46 then most of the mileage has been motorway hopefully and the subframe is in good working order!

Doesn't matter mate, the bit where the subframe attaches to the car can crack after lots of hard acceleration in 1st and 2nd it will go on most M3's tbh mine has been checked and is okay so far, I need to get the reinforcement done asap.

Gaygle · 10 Dec 2014 at 21:52

[TW]Fox;27331266 said:
How much do you get for that and whats the concentration?

5litres. Down to -63c when used neat. -35c when used 2:1 (screenwash:water), -23c 1:1, -12c 1:2.

Also, it smells good enough to drink.

mrk · 10 Dec 2014 at 21:56

Tom|Nbk said:
Doesn't matter mate, the bit where the subframe attaches to the car can crack after lots of hard acceleration in 1st and 2nd it will go on most M3's tbh mine has been checked and is okay so far, I need to get the reinforcement done asap.

I've found another manual M3 convertible with hard top and red leather interior, it has a recent inspection 2 and subframe was checked then. It is still under the 10 year warranty so I have at least 6 months if I do buy it to get BMW to sort it out. I suppose the natural thing to do would be to make ample use of gears 1 and 2 before the warranty on the subframe is up

Going to view it soon and see what's what but by all accounts it does appear to be the perfect M3 for me so far.

[TW]Fox · 10 Dec 2014 at 22:05

Gaygle said:
5litres. Down to -63c when used neat. -35c when used 2:1 (screenwash:water), -23c 1:1, -12c 1:2.

Also, it smells good enough to drink.

So I guess thats a quid a litre diluted - as you'll get 15 litres out of it.

Still seems a bit expensive..

Jez · 10 Dec 2014 at 22:06

Gaygle said:
5litres. Down to -63c when used neat. -35c when used 2:1 (screenwash:water), -23c 1:1, -12c 1:2.

Also, it smells good enough to drink.

15l @ -12c, for £15? That's absolutely ridiculous? That's nearly as expensive as petrol

Gaygle · 10 Dec 2014 at 22:37

[TW]Fox;27331587 said:
So I guess thats a quid a litre diluted - as you'll get 15 litres out of it.

Still seems a bit expensive..

Jez said:
15l @ -12c, for £15? That's absolutely ridiculous? That's nearly as expensive as petrol

It is?

Tesco's own brand -10c stuff is £2.50 for 2.5l litres (£1/litre), Sainsburys is the same, Halfords -20c 5l conc. stuff is £7.50 (50/50 = -13c = 10litres/£7.50 (75p/litre).

BMW's own stuff with it's anti-mould/algae stuff at £1/litre isn't bad at all IMO?

Also, is it just me that doesn't understand why -63c stuff diluted with equal amount of water, doesn't mean it's ok to -31.5c?

[TW]Fox · 10 Dec 2014 at 22:41

Gaygle said:
It is?

Tesco's own brand -10c stuff is £2.50 for 2.5l litres (£1/litre), Sainsburys is the same, Halfords -20c 5l conc. stuff is £7.50 (50/50 = -13c = 10litres/£7.50 (75p/litre).

BMW's own stuff with it's anti-mould/algae stuff at £1/litre isn't bad at all IMO?

Usually pay (Well, pre F10, not actuallyhad to fill it up yet..) about £2-3 for stuff that you dilute 3 to 1 at the least?

Gaygle · 10 Dec 2014 at 22:44

[TW]Fox;27331755 said:
Usually pay (Well, pre F10, not actuallyhad to fill it up yet..) about £2-3 for stuff that you dilute 3 to 1 at the least?

Where from? All the usual places that people get screenwash from (supermarkets and Halfords) are the same or comparable price. Even Eurocarparts bargain-o-tastic TripleQX stuff is £4.60 for 5litres of -15c stuff, making it as near as makes no difference - £1/litre.

xs2man · 10 Dec 2014 at 22:51

I get mine out of costco. Dilutes 1:9 (screen wash : water) and is cheap as chips.

Gaygle · 10 Dec 2014 at 23:22

xs2man said:
I get mine out of costco. Dilutes 1:9 (screen wash : water) and is cheap as chips.

What screenwash can you dilute 1:9 and have it anywhere near strong enough to stop it freezing in winter and to clean a windscreen? Considering the BMW stuff is -63c neat and when you dilute it to 1 part screenwash:2 parts water it goes from -63c to -12c. You'd have to invent, then use like -500c stuff to get it to be a decent enough concentration to not freeze/clear the windows effectively when diluted with 9 parts water!

xs2man · 11 Dec 2014 at 00:13

The brand name is Prestone I believe.

Been using it for years without issue though.

J1nxy · 11 Dec 2014 at 07:38

I know BMW are sometimes subtle with their LCI/Facelifts on their cars but this is pretty extreme...

This really is a case of spot the difference...

[TW]Fox · 11 Dec 2014 at 08:05

Wow, thats even more subtle than the borderline useless F10 LCI! What exactly have they changed?

J1nxy · 11 Dec 2014 at 08:13

[TW]Fox;27332339 said:
Wow, thats even more subtle than the borderline useless F10 LCI! What exactly have they changed?

Headlights, surround round the fogs, indicators moved to the wing mirrors and possibly the biggest thing the chrome grill now has 9 rather than 10 slats

[TW]Fox · 11 Dec 2014 at 08:44

Oh great, move the indicators but leave the old indicator surround on the wing with a pointless chrome blank.

J1nxy · 11 Dec 2014 at 09:19

To be honest the changes are so subtle you do wonder why bother...but then as the LCI was coming I suspect that didn't exactly hurt the deal I got on my car

NVP · 11 Dec 2014 at 10:09

pepsilol · 11 Dec 2014 at 10:52

xs2man said:
The brand name is Prestone I believe.

Been using it for years without issue though.

I use the Scania stuff.

Fiver concentrated and it goes down to -50 or something daft.

SDK^ · 11 Dec 2014 at 10:53

J1nxy said:
the biggest thing the chrome grill now has 9 rather than 10 slats

You sure?
An odd number means more slats on one side of the car.

Looks like 12 slats on the M6

:: EDIT ::
Got you - you meant 9 per side

Slats - such an interesting discussion