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[TW]Fox;28427894 said:
I don't understand what it does that a 4GC doesn't do whilst being better specified.

The 3 GT is about £1k cheaper (like-for-like model), has more headroom in the back and more boot space.
 
The 3 GT is about £1k cheaper (like-for-like model), has more headroom in the back and more boot space.

Are you considering the extra spec included as standard in a 4GC? For example a 430d M Sport has Xenon's and Pro Navigation as standard.

They are ridiculously similar cars - it's genuinely bizarre they both exist - but the 4GC looks like the pick of the two. Rear headroom is moot, nobody buys a 3 Series to ferry adults around surely and its not THAT different anyway.
 
I agree with you Fox, I was just pointing out the +'s the 3 GT has over the 4 GC. It's definitely a niche too far. What next - 4 Series Touring or a convertible Touring Gran Coupe :p
 
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I would be tempted on going down there, but I heard nothing but bad press from their service dept, so I take mine to Sytner Sunningdale.

I'm doing the same, looking to get a new BMW in November.
I wont say what type as I will be flamed for it on the forums:D

I've used Sytner Sunningdale and Cooper. Can't fault either of them, but I now take my cars to TWG as my friend who was a BMW master mechanic left and went to TWG to work with/for his friend who is also ex Sytner Sunningdale mechanic. I highly recommend using them.
It's worth going there for a look though!
 
What's the Z4 saying? Saw a nice older one (03, 50k miles, 1 owner from new). Seems very cheap, got all the service work etc.

Downside is tax is over 1k euros, but frankly isn't that bad.

It's the 2.5 variant.

I get they are pretty old now, but whats the general reliability like? Does it have the potential to throw up huge bills?

Really want a convertible and it seems like a nice step up from a 1.6 hyundai..
 
The 2.5 is pointless, costs the same as a 3.0 to run. Unless you find a good deal on a 2.5 there is little reason to pick one over a 3.0.

They are not unreliable as such but remember they are old cars and most of them are in dire need of suspension refreshes etc etc.
 
Tend to agree, unless it's much cheaper incant really see a good reason to go for the 2.5 - in all honesty it isn't going to feel massively slower, but even so for the small premium to go to the 3 litre I can't see why you wouldn't

It'll be easier to move on and you won't be thinking "wonder if the slightly bigger engine is a lot better"
 
[TW]Fox;28427894 said:
I don't understand what it does that a 4GC doesn't do whilst being better specified.

Now...I asked this exact question in my local bmw dealership after I raised it in the thread a few months back.
He seemed to have a very scripted response of 'it has more sporty handling and styling'
 
[TW]Fox;28428719 said:
The 2.5 is pointless, costs the same as a 3.0 to run. Unless you find a good deal on a 2.5 there is little reason to pick one over a 3.0.

They are not unreliable as such but remember they are old cars and most of them are in dire need of suspension refreshes etc etc.

Tend to agree, unless it's much cheaper incant really see a good reason to go for the 2.5 - in all honesty it isn't going to feel massively slower, but even so for the small premium to go to the 3 litre I can't see why you wouldn't

It'll be easier to move on and you won't be thinking "wonder if the slightly bigger engine is a lot better"

Tax is an extra 500 euro again, costs a lot more and I'm struggling to get insurance to boot.

That's my main rationale for it. My other reason is that I wasn't particularly looking for one, this one just seems to be extremely nice in regards ownership, being looked after etc.
 
Ahh you're in ROI?

Starts to make a bit more sense then - you need to drive it really to make sure it lives up to expectations but it's not exactly a weedy engine variant if the car itself is a nice example
 
[TW]Fox;28428719 said:
The 2.5 is pointless, costs the same as a 3.0 to run. Unless you find a good deal on a 2.5 there is little reason to pick one over a 3.0.

They are not unreliable as such but remember they are old cars and most of them are in dire need of suspension refreshes etc etc.

€414/year difference in tax. That said, I've always justified 3.0 BMWs over 2.5s here :p

I think I've seen the Z4 you're referring to, seems suspiciously cheap! I test drove a 325ci and found it surprisingly slow, imagine that the z4 will be a bit more spritely however.
 
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