BMW and M Power Owners

commited said:
€414/year difference in tax. That said, I've always justified 3.0 BMWs over 2.5s here :p

I think I've seen the Z4 you're referring to, seems suspiciously cheap! I test drove a 325ci and found it surprisingly slow, imagine that the z4 will be a bit more spritely however.
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If I get the z4, we're definitely going for a jaunt around the wicklow mountains. :D

Though I might be a bit outpowered. :p

(this one is a private sale through work, he wants 6.5k, but I reckon he'll take 6k). Only other one I can see is in Mayo, but the 4 owners is putting me off. The rest have 100k+ mileage which isn't the end of the world, but my cars get driven hard so would like as much leeway as possible. :D
 
[TW]Fox;28428148 said:
Are you considering the extra spec included as standard in a 4GC? For example a 430d M Sport has Xenon's and Pro Navigation as standard.

They are ridiculously similar cars - it's genuinely bizarre they both exist - but the 4GC looks like the pick of the two. Rear headroom is moot, nobody buys a 3 Series to ferry adults around surely and its not THAT different anyway.
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I agree that the 4GC is the better car.

But I have seen so many of them now that I wanted to try 3GT due to the fact that you don't see many of them on the road.:(

Main fact I figure is that they do not sell that well over here lol.

They have a comparison here >>http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973092
 
rapid64k said:
I agree that the 4GC is the better car.

But I have seen so many of them now that I wanted to try 3GT due to the fact that you don't see many of them on the road.:(

Main fact I figure is that they do not sell that well over here lol.

They have a comparison here >>http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=973092
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There is a reason you see more 4gc's...because the 3gt is an inferior car. It's your money ultimately but in your position I would be getting a 4gc
 
SS-89 said:
There is a reason you see more 4gc's...because the 3gt is an inferior car. It's your money ultimately but in your position I would be getting a 4gc
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In what way it is "inferior"? It's got more leg room for front & rear passengers, more shoulde room, more head room than the 4GC. It has exactly the same drivetrain options too. In those aspects it is superior to, or equal to, the 4GC.

Sure, I think it's n ugly car and I'd take a 4GC over it any day, but to say it's inferior is a purely subjective (and non-factual) statement.
 
rapid64k said:
I agree that the 4GC is the better car.

But I have seen so many of them now that I wanted to try 3GT due to the fact that you don't see many of them on the road.:(
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Now this I don't understand - why would you buy something you believe isn't as good just because you 'dont see many of them'? It's not as if you've picked some quirky left-field rare sports car, it's a 3 Series with a hatch :p

They don't sell well at all which if nothing else is an issue for future residuals.
 
Havana_UK said:
In what way it is "inferior"? It's got more leg room for front & rear passengers, more shoulde room, more head room than the 4GC. It has exactly the same drivetrain options too. In those aspects it is superior to, or equal to, the 4GC.

Sure, I think it's n ugly car and I'd take a 4GC over it any day, but to say it's inferior is a purely subjective (and non-factual) statement.
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I don't think it is. Dimensionally it's almost exactly the same with only minor differences in the areas you highlight - most people would struggle to tell the two cars apart. However one credible difference is that the 4GC is better specified - a 430d will come with Xenons and Pro Nav as standard, a 330d will not. The minor additional cost of the 4 is countered by the additional equipment you don't have to pay for and residually speaking it's almost certain that the 3GT will depreciate much quicker than the 4GC simply due to supply and demand.

Obviously the 3GT isnt a bad car - how can it be, it's a 3 Series with a different body style at the end of the day and the 3 Series is an excellent car - its just hard to see how there is space in the market for both 3GT and 4GC and sales performance to date would, anecdotally at least, support this question.
 
If i was to pose the question " what would you choose an X4 X5 or X6"?

The answer would X5, but some people would opt for the X6.

So 4GC or an 3GT is the choice so i chose the 3GT. I have already had 2 x 3 Series Saloons to date and the 4GC all be it looks different on the outside but is still just a saloon.

None of the panels on the 3 GT fit any of the 3 series on the market.

Yes it may look like a 3 series, but 3GT is different in it's on right.
 
Not directly relevant to the above discussion, but I spotted a 418d GC on the motorway the other day. While I of course know that you can get a 418d coupe, I would have thought that to keep something 'special' or 'premium' about the GC, BMW wouldnt offer such a low-end engine. In my opinion I would try to maximise the differential between the saloon and the GC in order to keep the price premium. Clearly BMW saw short term gain in lieu of long term benefits. Sign of the times I think.
 
slick rick said:
That does sound shady as hell to be honest. Is a E92 M3 vulnerable to an OBD attack to steal it, I know some BMW models were.

Did you get the reg of either vehicle, if you did I would contact the police and they might have something on the database relating to the vehicles?

It does sound very suspicious IMO.
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I don't know to be honest but I believe that the E92 was vulnerable to the OBD attack. Does anyone know whether it was fixed on the LCI models?

I did manage to get the reg. of the Golf and have reported it to the police.
 
Been looking at F30s for when I replace my E46 Coupe but my God there are so many poor spec ones (no leather, xenon etc) about and hardly an petrol ones. Only do about 8K a year so a diesel would be a bit of waste.

SS-89 said:
There is a reason you see more 4gc's...because the 3gt is an inferior car. It's your money ultimately but in your position I would be getting a 4gc
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I don't know think its necessarily a worse car but the 4GC does look a lot better than the 3GT.
 
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rodenal said:
Tend to agree, unless it's much cheaper incant really see a good reason to go for the 2.5 - in all honesty it isn't going to feel massively slower
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I used to have an e46 325i manual Touring, 2000 m/y, changed it for an e39 530i Sport Auto of the same age, a few more miles and despite the 5 being heavier (but only by 100kg or so!) and being automatic, it feels noticeably quicker than the 325 was, never bothered to check the actual figures tbh but seat of the pants as such, the bigger engined 5 feels the quicker to me, despite being much more refined...
 
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