BMW and M Power Owners

I think fox meant that you're in negative equity straight away. Which you are, at the end of the term the idea is that you're in positive equity. I know I was in negative equity with my old TT, high mileage plus new model and part ex early in the deal did not help...
 
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Most PCP deals are in negative equity for a portion of the duration. Feel free to disagree if you like but doing so whilst telling us yours is as well doesn't help your point :p
 
I can understand that one more than most I've seen. It is at least a 528i, not a 520d, and he probably bought it as CAT D with panel damage, and chose to replace them with M5 ones rather than standard ones. I personally wouldn't drive it but I've seen a lot worse - there was a 520d with a full M5 kit, gold wrap and massive black wheels floating around on eBay a while ago.
 
£350+ a month for borrowing a standard TT when you could drive an S3 or M135i. The former for lower and the latter for a lot lower per month, I know which I'd rather drive!
 
[TW]Fox;29356261 said:
Most PCP deals are in negative equity for a portion of the duration. Feel free to disagree if you like but doing so whilst telling us yours is as well doesn't help your point :p
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I didn't say they weren't, at some point. I was simply disagreeing with your assertion that whenever you decide to change cars when doing a PCP, you are ALWAYS in negative equity. Notice how you even put it in capitals, as if it's guaranteed to happen.

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There will be negative equity in the deal - there ALWAYS is because most PCP deals contain very low deposits
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Which is simply untrue, as this is the first time, in 4 PCP deals, that I have been in this situation. The other 3 times, I always had equity in the car, regardless of whether I had the car for 6 months or 18 months.
 
Took the missus down to our local Citreon dealer so she could test drive the C1. She liked it so we got down to negotiations, pulled out the quote I'd been offered with drivethedeal. Salesman went off, came back with the finance director who starts telling me that website must be a con, cars must be imports/pre-reg etc etc, no way they can supply them at that price. Needless to say we left empty handed as he didnt see anything wrong with paying £1800 more to make sure we got good quality local service.

*edit: sorry for the thread de-rail, maybe we need an internet car brokers thread!
 
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PSS always struck me as an internet hero tyre - it's amazing on a dry track so the entire internet loves it and considers it the best tyre ever but it always seemed to trail the other UHP tyres in areas that actually mattered.
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I've never really got the criticism of it's wet weather ability (even then, it trails by a small margin to only 3 other tyres). In the cold and wet, yes, it can be slippery, but above 7c in the wet, its as good as any tyre I've ever used. I was in heavy rain the other day on very windy roads, and I was going as quickly as I imagine anyone in their right mind would. The MPSS didn't even flinch at this. I can't imagine how quickly you'd need to be going in the wet for it's lesser wet weather ability to show? The turn in and confidence it gives is something which is very noticeable when swapping from other tyres. It's hard to describe, but that's the best I've got.

Yes, it has it's negatives - it's quite noisy and quite a firm tyre. These are completely valid points in my experience. Apart from these though, it's a very, very good tyre. It also has a big positive that somehow it seems to not wear at even half the rate of the Goodyears and Continental tyres i've had previously.

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The new PS4 seems to fix this and looks like a candidate for best UHP tyre on the market for road use. My understanding is that PS4 is basically the new Michelin UHP tyre for retail, will be available in larger sizes, and PSS will only continue in situations whereby there is an OEM contract in place.
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Basically. The new MPSS 2 will be coming 2017.

Until then, I hope the PS4 will be as good as the outgoing MPSS
 
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I've never really got the criticism of it's wet weather ability (even then, it trails by a small margin to only 3 other tyres). In the cold and wet, yes, it can be slippery, but above 7c in the wet, its as good as any tyre I've ever used. I was in heavy rain the other day on very windy roads, and I was going as quickly as I imagine anyone in their right mind would. The MPSS didn't even flinch at this. I can't imagine how quickly you'd need to be going in the wet for it's lesser wet weather ability to show? The turn in and confidence it gives is something which is very noticeable when swapping from other tyres. It's hard to describe, but that's the best I've got.

Yes, it has it's negatives - it's quite noisy and quite a firm tyre. These are completely valid points in my experience. Apart from these though, it's a very, very good tyre. It also has a big positive that somehow it seems to not wear at even half the rate of the Goodyears and Continental tyres i've had previously.



Basically. The new MPSS 2 will be coming 2017.

Until then, I hope the PS4 will be as good as the outgoing MPSS
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Having had the PSS for some 20,000 miles in just over a year and now on CSC6, I'm happy to confirm my early thoughts that the PSS are in fact overhyped for the road. They are great in the dry, but so are the F1AS2 which are cheaper and arguably better in the wet?

The CSC6 are more comfortable, feel much more composed in the wet, cheaper and have wider rim protection. The only question mark is tread wear. The PSS still had enough tread on the rears after nearly 20k miles. The AS2 on the rears of the 318 didn't even last 20k miles! The PSS would light up DSC often when jumping on the throttle to quickly join a junction when a gap opens up. I have not had this on the CSC6 yet just over 300 miles in.

The CSC6 are a new compound though, so they may well have excellent wear life, or maybe they won't. Gotta wait the rest of the year to see how they fair :D

But even so, I'm seriously impressed with them on this car. Just feels well planted rain storm or not, whatever the speed.
 
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Anyone know where the best place to order tyres from and how much a BMW dealer will charge to fit them? Or if they will even fit a tyre I bought elsewhere?

Just noticed there's a nail in one of the rear tyres :mad:, no deflation warning yet so I guess best to leave it in there until I get a replacement...
 
Why would you want a BMW dealer to fit your tyres? Many of them don't have tyre fitting facilities anyway and have a contract with a local place.
 
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